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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If you are a Ron Paul fan, you will not like my comments on him. While as a mainstream conservative independent, I like some of what the libertarians preach, I consider Ron Paul to be a drooling nut job, at least in regards to foreign policy. I do like Rand Paul to a point. I sincerely hope that his father's influence on him is limited at least on foreign policy. As for dishonesty in the two main political parties.....the democrats get the "lying bastards" trophy hands up. Their dishonesty is legendary. Since you mentioned 2012, the hatchet job they did on Romney such as making up stories about him not paying taxes is just one example. In the 2014 midterms the democrats spent considerable effort pushing a phony claim that voter ID bills disenfranchise minority and senior citizen voters. The republican party dishonesty is just the establishment republicans voting in conservative platforms, sending out donation mailers claiming to be conservatives, and then and then governing as liberal-lite.
    Do you like the foreign policy we have today? What is it that you don't like about Paul's foreign policy? Ron Paul argues that we shouldn't be concerned with "nation building" halfway across the globe when we have a nation here to build. That we shouldn't be giving a dime to "foreign aid" when we are broke, extremely in debt and in need of aid here domestically doesn't sound so crazy to me. Especially when "nation building" isn't really what is going on. Most people don't have a clue as to what is really going on because our news is censored and tailored so that we think only what they want us to think.

    My father donated a good chunk to the repubs every year since the early 70's. After 2012, he was so disgusted, that he no longer supports the party. The dems are equally scandalous. We'll be getting more of the same regardless of which party ends up in the white house. It would be highly beneficial to americans and the world if both parties were rejected in 2016, and someone from ANY other party was elected. Are americans smart enough to let the media cram the 2 puppets down our throats, but then vote for someone else?
    There are none so blind as those who choose not to see....

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Hell no!

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If you are a Ron Paul fan, you will not like my comments on him. While as a mainstream conservative independent, I like some of what the libertarians preach, I consider Ron Paul to be a drooling nut job, at least in regards to foreign policy. I do like Rand Paul to a point. I sincerely hope that his father's influence on him is limited at least on foreign policy. As for dishonesty in the two main political parties.....the democrats get the "lying bastards" trophy hands up. Their dishonesty is legendary. Since you mentioned 2012, the hatchet job they did on Romney such as making up stories about him not paying taxes is just one example. In the 2014 midterms the democrats spent considerable effort pushing a phony claim that voter ID bills disenfranchise minority and senior citizen voters. The republican party dishonesty is just the establishment republicans voting in conservative platforms, sending out donation mailers claiming to be conservatives, and then and then governing as liberal-lite.
    Voter ID laws DO disenfranchise people. Poor people, specifically, who are largely minorities and/or elderly.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Do you like the foreign policy we have today? What is it that you don't like about Paul's foreign policy? Ron Paul argues that we shouldn't be concerned with "nation building" halfway across the globe when we have a nation here to build. That we shouldn't be giving a dime to "foreign aid" when we are broke, extremely in debt and in need of aid here domestically doesn't sound so crazy to me. Especially when "nation building" isn't really what is going on. Most people don't have a clue as to what is really going on because our news is censored and tailored so that we think only what they want us to think.

    My father donated a good chunk to the repubs every year since the early 70's. After 2012, he was so disgusted, that he no longer supports the party. The dems are equally scandalous. We'll be getting more of the same regardless of which party ends up in the white house. It would be highly beneficial to americans and the world if both parties were rejected in 2016, and someone from ANY other party was elected. Are americans smart enough to let the media cram the 2 puppets down our throats, but then vote for someone else?
    I have see no indication of that being the case.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I have see no indication of that being the case.
    Of what being the case? Of americans being smart? Yeah, I don't either.
    There are none so blind as those who choose not to see....

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Of what being the case? Of americans being smart? Yeah, I don't either.
    Yes.

    Although I should say it's not necessarily a lack of smarts, so much as how many distractions are available.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Do you like the foreign policy we have today?
    No....I do not. I think having the present administration running foreign policy is about the same as having a kindergarten class running a construction company.

    What is it that you don't like about Paul's foreign policy?
    His isolationism for one...his incredibly insane rhetoric on foreign policy for another.

    Ron Paul argues that we shouldn't be concerned with "nation building" halfway across the globe when we have a nation here to build.
    I think nation building is a very exaggerated term. It's not what we are doing. When we defeated Germany and Japan in WW2 for instance, we did not build a new government for them, we merely made certain that the evil bastards who were running those governments did not reconstitute. In Germany's case, that would be the Nazis. Those nations formed their own new governments.


    That we shouldn't be giving a dime to "foreign aid" when we are broke, extremely in debt and in need of aid here domestically doesn't sound so crazy to me. Especially when "nation building" isn't really what is going on. Most people don't have a clue as to what is really going on because our news is censored and tailored so that we think only what they want us to think.
    The reality is that while we do need to be spending a lot less money on foreign aid, some of it is absolutely necessary unless we want to cut ourselves off from the rest of the world. Some of our important allies would not survive without it.

    My father donated a good chunk to the repubs every year since the early 70's. After 2012, he was so disgusted, that he no longer supports the party. The dems are equally scandalous. We'll be getting more of the same regardless of which party ends up in the white house. It would be highly beneficial to americans and the world if both parties were rejected in 2016, and someone from ANY other party was elected. Are americans smart enough to let the media cram the 2 puppets down our throats, but then vote for someone else?
    I have not donated a penny to the republican party in decades. I have donated to individual candidates who share my philosophy. I do not belong to a political party and the only reason I care at all whether or not republicans win is to keep morons like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid out of leadership power in congress. I don't think much of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell either, however they will do considerably less damage then Pelosi and Reid did.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Voter ID laws DO disenfranchise people. Poor people, specifically, who are largely minorities and/or elderly.
    Simply not true....and deep down, I am quite sure that you know that.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Simply not true....and deep down, I am quite sure that you know that.
    Wrong again. It is unquestionably true.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as our next President? [W:302]

    Hell no!

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