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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I was especially amused by his suggestion that employers do not put profits back into the business. Where does he think the cash flow for payroll and operating funds comes from?
    Revenue.

    Profit is whatever is left after all operating costs are paid.

    Now, if a company decides to invest some of it's profit back into the company in some way, that's one thing - but profit definitely does not go into payroll or operation costs.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Revenue.

    Profit is whatever is left after all operating costs are paid.

    Now, if a company decides to invest some of it's profit back into the company in some way, that's one thing - but profit definitely does not go into payroll or operation costs.
    Except for startup investment, all operating expenses, payroll included are ultimately paid for by profits that are put back into the business. The only exceptions are funding from shareholders if the company has gone public or in the case of some small business owner putting his own personal wealth in to prop up his business during hard times. My employer has been around for 99 years. I have been with them for 25 of those years. Pretty much all funding for operating the business comes from profits put back into the business. If not, a business cannot grow. It is not mantra from heaven.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Revenue.

    Profit is whatever is left after all operating costs are paid.

    Now, if a company decides to invest some of it's profit back into the company in some way, that's one thing - but profit definitely does not go into payroll or operation costs.
    Labor and all the expenses associated with it ARE included in operation costs. Certainly the company that cannot retain the most competent and productive workers will not profit as much as the company that does, but the flip side is that company profits are the most important and essential component of the wages and benefits that the employees will receive. Without adequate profits, raises and improved benefits won't happen. Without sufficient profits the business closes its doors ending all the wages and benefits available to everybody.

    This is the silliness in the 'tax the rich more' drumbeat of the left and Hillary's initial campaign strategy. You make the rich less rich, and you take away resources that the rich uses to help make others rich.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Except for startup investment, all operating expenses, payroll included are ultimately paid for by profits that are put back into the business. The only exceptions are funding from shareholders if the company has gone public or in the case of some small business owner putting his own personal wealth in to prop up his business during hard times. My employer has been around for 99 years. I have been with them for 25 of those years. Pretty much all funding for operating the business comes from profits put back into the business. If not, a business cannot grow. It is not mantra from heaven.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Labor and all the expenses associated with it ARE included in operation costs. Certainly the company that cannot retain the most competent and productive workers will not profit as much as the company that does, but the flip side is that company profits are the most important and essential component of the wages and benefits that the employees will receive. Without adequate profits, raises and improved benefits won't happen. Without sufficient profits the business closes its doors ending all the wages and benefits available to everybody.

    This is the silliness in the 'tax the rich more' drumbeat of the left and Hillary's initial campaign strategy. You make the rich less rich, and you take away resources that the rich uses to help make others rich.
    Right.

    But profit is the money made over and above operating costs - which includes payroll.

    You're talking about putting all or a portion of profits back into the business, which is what any good company does - it's required for growth and employee retention.

    Bonuses, raises, promotions, etc.

    All are extremely limited by misapplication of profits
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Right.

    But profit is the money made over and above operating costs - which includes payroll.

    You're talking about putting all or a portion of profits back into the business, which is what any good company does - it's required for growth and employee retention.

    Bonuses, raises, promotions, etc.

    All are extremely limited by misapplication of profits
    Still the funding for those operating costs have to come from somewhere. That somewhere is previous profits.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Still the funding for those operating costs have to come from somewhere. That somewhere is previous profits.
    No. Funding for operation costs comes from revenue. Profit is whatever's left after operational costs are paid.

    This is why profit can be used to expand and grow the business - because the operational costs are already paid.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No. Funding for operation costs comes from revenue. Profit is whatever's left after operational costs are paid.

    This is why profit can be used to expand and grow the business - because the operational costs are already paid.
    Where do you think the revenue comes from?

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Where do you think the revenue comes from?
    Sales.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Where do you think the revenue comes from?
    From selling products or services to customers.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    This appears to be an admission that increasing profits will never go back into the business (specifically, the workers).



    You didn't answer my question. When is the money going to trickle down? You said it would. The only thing that has happened since Reagan is that it takes two incomes to support a household, rather than one income prior to Reagan.

    Money always goes from where it is to where it's earned. Trickle down doesn't mean that money will equally distribute itself. All the other effects of supply and demand still exist. As long as there are more hamburger flippers than doctors, doctors will earn more.
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