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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    The only reason any rational person could vote for Hillary Clinton for president given her character and public record is if one took her Benghazi hearing statement as her campaign slogan and agreed, conceding that the nation were already doomed:

    Hillary 2016: At This Point, What Difference Does It Make?
    Yep. I'm pretty much convinced that there's some rule in this discussion forum against policy discussions. Either that, or these Clinton-haters know that policy discussions are not to their advantage...

    Tax cuts for the rich, anyone?

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    I see. Jesus just lacked a decent editor. Like you. Got it.
    It's in the scriptures, jpn. You might want to read them sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    So you must believe that since we enjoy all that conservative largess, we have no need for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare.
    So you deny all the billions of dollars of wasteful spending in those programs? And you deny that you could have had a lot more of a payout with Social Security if you had simply invested that money yourself into the stock market? Please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    You obviously haven't read The Gospels recently.
    It's not just the Gospels, but the Bible as a whole. And you've already been corrected once (above) on the Bible, and now you can stand corrected again:

    What Does the Bible Say About Personal Responsibility?
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    You mean the guy who presided over 8 years of peace and prosperity? You hyper-partisan hacks never seem to remember that part.
    No, I'm talking about the Perjurer-in-Chief, the accused rapist and misogynist; the one who had to be carried kicking and screaming to a balanced budget by the new Republican House, and the man who was one of the most congenital liars on earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    I know, maybe she'll turn a budget surplus into a deficit, lie her way into an unnecessary war and then botch it, and leave office in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Oh wait, that was some other guy, wasn't it?
    The greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression was the result of your boys - specifically Slick Willie Clinton and Barney Franks (head of the oversight committee on Freddie and Fanny).

    This happened under Clinton. It's a NY Times article from 1999:

    "Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people..."

    "In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's."

    Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - NYTimes.com

    That was Slick Willie's program that finally blew up under Bush.

    And Democrat Barney Franks was negligent in overseeing it.

    "As long as housing prices kept rising, the illusion that all this was good public policy could be sustained. But it didn't take a financial whiz to recognize that a day of reckoning would come. "What does it mean when Boston banks start making many more loans to minorities?" I asked in this space in 1995. "Most likely, that they are knowingly approving risky loans in order to get the feds and the activists off their backs . . . When the coming wave of foreclosures rolls through the inner city, which of today's self-congratulating bankers, politicians, and regulators plans to take the credit?"

    (Barney) "Frank doesn't. But his fingerprints are all over this fiasco. Time and time again, Frank insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in good shape. Five years ago, for example, when the Bush administration proposed much tighter regulation of the two companies, Frank was adamant that "these two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis."

    Frank's fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco - The Boston Globe

    And that's why your knee-jerk argument above is nonsense. I could go into more detail on the rest, but I doubt you'll take this to heart.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Right now I would not vote for her.

    I am still hopeful a strong leader will emerge and lead this country back to greatness. In order to get back to greatness we will need to make major changes in the direction we are headed.

    We need an immigration policy that brings people into this country that are law abiding and will put us back in the forefront of science and technology instead of criminals who managed to enter the country illegally.

    We need a leader that will work with congress to keep what industry we still have and bring new industry back to this country.

    A leader that will work with congress and the states to use our tax money to make jobs more available than welfare.

    We need a leader that will end the crazy government gravy train that the people of this country cannot afford. When the country as whole falls on hard times everyone must tighten their belts especially and foremost our government. People struggling to fund their own retirement and pay for health care should not be paying for platinum health care policies and lucrative retirement plans for people already making twice as much as the average taxpayer.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as our next President? [W:302]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know, most every president we've ever had has turned out to be a scam for one side or the other. A successful president's term can only be based on - what the major issues are and what that president has been able to do to reach a positive outcome and who benefits from it.
    Frankly I don't think a President has to accomplish much. All the President has to do to be beloved and successful is to be a competent administrator and a leader--somebody with courage of his/her convictions so that he or she doesn't vacillate trying to accommodate the polls. And somebody who reflects the deepest values of the people and inspires them to be the best they can be. Reagan for instance was no great intellect. And his administration isn't remembered for a lot of accomplishments. He did some things right, got some things wrong, and had a weird side that probably wouldn't be allowed now 35 years later. But he was beloved by most and he inspired us to be better people. He carried 49 of the 50 states in 1984 and almost got Mondale's Minnesota too.

    THAT is what I want in a President though. Somebody who won't allow Congress to run amuck and otherwise leads by example and trusts the people to know what is best for the people.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Was thinking about that this morning. And you are right, on top of that she was caught and let hubby try to pick up the pieces by saying she was tired and dehydrated.

    right, we saw how dehydrated she was
    Yep.....we do not need a president who is not smart enough to at least stay hydrated.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    And the fact that she believes NASA rather than Rush Limbaugh when it comes to global warming is completely irrelevant, right?

    The problem with democracy is that voters are so often vacuous tools of the rich and powerful.
    I take NASA quite seriously when it comes to rockets and space travel. Not when they branch off into nuttiness such as man-made climate change.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    You really want to go there? Even though Palin's only been in the national spotlight less than a decade compared to Clinton's three, Palin has an unmatchable record:

    Here she is recently when her teleprompter broke.

    Here's her top ten stupidest utterances, although there are plenty more: Dumb Sarah Palin Quotes - Top 10 Stupid Palin Quotes

    Even the GOP has admitted that Palin is loco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=M6phMonavhw
    Watch the video. It's hilarious.
    Sorry not interested in your videos. Go bait someone else. Palin may not have been the top tier in GOP choices, however she is not looney tunes like Hillary.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Yep. I'm pretty much convinced that there's some rule in this discussion forum against policy discussions. Either that, or these Clinton-haters know that policy discussions are not to their advantage...

    Tax cuts for the rich, anyone?
    I absolutely love tax cuts for the rich. Any money that they spend or invest rather then hiding in tax shelters creates more jobs, taxpayers, etc.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I absolutely love tax cuts for the rich. Any money that they spend or invest rather then hiding in tax shelters creates more jobs, taxpayers, etc.
    Increasing the minimum wage (for example) has far more impact on the economy than giving tax breaks for the rich. This is because the common folk have to (and want to) spend money, and thus it heavily influences the economy. The rich horde the money, with very little going back into the economy.

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