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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You think Hillary is a good, moral person?
    What I think of Hillary is irrelevant to our discussion. Morality and righteousness are not dependent on whether you believe in a god or not. However, what is now clear is that your understanding of righteousness is pretty lazy thinking. Hell, even YOUR book admits that morality is dependent on actions and not personal beliefs yet here you are pretending to be a bible scholar and saying that the opposite is true.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah being here less than a year trumps him? he's right on this issue. and there are lots of "liberals" who don't want Cankles Some think she is too moderate. Some don't like the fact that she seems to think being the wife of a former president trumps having actual real accomplishments rather than stuff handed to her due to who she once slept with. Others think she's too old, too tired and damaged goods.
    Spoken like a true (modern) Republican.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What I think of Hillary is irrelevant to our discussion. Morality and righteousness are not dependent on whether you believe in a god or not. However, what is now clear is that your understanding of righteousness is pretty lazy thinking. Hell, even YOUR book admits that morality is dependent on actions and not personal beliefs yet here you are pretending to be a bible scholar and saying that the opposite is true.
    That's nonsense. The Bible teaches that people are morally deficient, which is why they need a Savior (Jesus Christ).

    Even the founding fathers didn't consider men to be morally upright, which is why they instituted checks and balances in our system of government.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    That's nonsense. The Bible teaches that people are morally deficient, which is why they need a Savior (Jesus Christ).
    That's great, but it doesn't change the fact that morality is not dependent on whether you believe in a god or not. Again, this is from YOUR book. A person who acts in a moral way, is moral. Their religious beliefs are irrelevant.

    Even the founding fathers didn't consider men to be morally upright, which is why they instituted checks and balances in our system of government.
    Trying to run away from the topic so soon? It doesn't change anything.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Spoken like a true (modern) Republican.
    spoken like a true worshipper of the Cankled Beast of Rodham.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Morality is soooooooooo subjective.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's great, but it doesn't change the fact that morality is not dependent on whether you believe in a god or not. Again, this is from YOUR book. A person who acts in a moral way, is moral. Their religious beliefs are irrelevant.

    Trying to run away from the topic so soon? It doesn't change anything.
    Believe that if you want, but I'm not buying it for a minute.

    And why won't you answer if you think Hillary is a good, moral person?
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Believe that if you want, but I'm not buying it for a minute.
    What you buy and what you don't buy is irrelevant to the truth. A person who practices righteousness is righteous. What they believe about gods, fairies and leprechauns is irrelevant.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What you buy and what you don't buy is irrelevant to the truth. A person who practices righteousness is righteous. What they believe about gods, fairies and leprechauns is irrelevant.
    I doubt there's a Christian minister worth his salt that agrees with that. I've never heard it in church.

    There's no one who has perfect righteousness who has never sinned. If you think there is name them.

    And righteousness is not by doing good works.

    Have you never read Ephesians 2:8-9? "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

    Or, Titus 3:4-5?

    But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.

    Or, from Isaiah 64:

    All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    I doubt there's a Christian minister worth his salt that agrees with that. I've never heard it in church.
    What a christian minister agrees or doesn't agree with is irrelevant. What is clear is that belief in a god and religious role models aren't necessary for a person to be moral or righteous. Again, it's about actions, not what other people, gods, etc, perceive. You clearly don't understand this simple concept. Continuing to post parts of the bible which have no relevance to whether a person is righteous or moral makes you look a little desperate at this point.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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