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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Believe whatever you want,
    This isn't a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact. Millions of atheists prove everyday that you don't need a religion to be moral or righteous. You don't even need the examples in the bible or christianity to do that. As a matter of fact, you can live your entire life unaware of the existence of the abrahamic god and still be moral.

    but I have no doubt your 'moral' atheists will all have a whole new understanding of that come Judgment Day.


    Is this how you capitulate? Look, your argument is nothing new. It's rehashed nonsense that may sound really impressive to 8 year olds in Sunday school but is pretty lazy to adults. People can be moral without religion. There are people every single day that state without fear that there is no god, and they go about their day like everyone else. They work hard, don't bother anybody and treat everyone with kindness. There are others who refuse to even entertain the possibility that people can be moral without religion. Some of these same folks get caught cheating on their wives, banging male pages, and stealing from their peers.

    So what does that tell you? It tells you that people can be moral without religion, and people can be moral with it. Morality is not dictated by whether a person accepts your circular reasoning about personal beliefs. It's dictated by how a person acts. Continuing to deny what should be obvious to any adult just makes you look silly.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Why do you worship a god that would be so cruel and spiteful and toss good people into a lake of fire simply for not believing in him? How could you possibly allow yourself to align your moral compass to a figure that would send atheists to hell for no other reason than being atheist?
    You need to read Romans chapters 1-4 so you can have a better understanding of what you think you know about that.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You need to read Romans chapters 1-4 so you can have a better understanding of what you think you know about that.
    That didn't answer my question. Why do you specifically choose to worship and derive your morals from a god that would kill innocent people for not worshiping him?
    The risk I took was calculated but man, am I bad at math.

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    I say that he [Trump] is the most honest guy to come down the pike in a very long while.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This isn't a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact. Millions of atheists prove everyday that you don't need a religion to be moral or righteous. You don't even need the examples in the bible or christianity to do that. As a matter of fact, you can live your entire life unaware of the existence of the abrahamic god and still be moral.
    Not in God's eyes.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    That didn't answer my question. Why do you specifically choose to worship and derive your morals from a god that would kill innocent people for not worshiping him?
    They're not innocent. All have sinned... - Romans 3:10

    Have you folks ever read the Bible? If so why did you miss that one?
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Not in God's eyes.

    Romans 3:10
    John 3:7
    "Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous."

    Ezekiel 18:5-9
    “If a man is righteous and does what is just and right— if he does not eat upon the mountains or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, does not defile his neighbor's wife or approach a woman in her time of menstrual impurity, does not oppress anyone, but restores to the debtor his pledge, commits no robbery, gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with a garment, does not lend at interest or take any profit, withholds his hand from injustice, executes true justice between man and man, walks in my statutes, and keeps my rules by acting faithfully—he is righteous; he shall surely live, declares the Lord God."

    Proverbs 29:7
    "A righteous man knows the rights of the poor; a wicked man does not understand such knowledge."

    Etc., etc., etc.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    They're not innocent. All have sinned... - Romans 3:10

    Have you folks ever read the Bible? If so why did you miss that one?
    So lets create this hypothetical person, this person is the nicest person in the world and did literally nothing wrong, except the only "sin" she has ever committed is that she doesn't worship your god. Do you think on that merit alone this person should go to hell. Or lets go with someone more real, the atheist firefighters who save people lives from burning buildings every day. The atheist police officers who protect and serve without ever once praying to god to protect them. The atheist men and women in the armed forces (like myself in due time) who fight for your freedom to worship any god you want do you think they too should go to hell for simply not believing in your god? Answer this very simple question please. Don't quote a bible scripture and do not sing a hymn. Use your own thought process and tell me why you choose to worship and derive your morals from a god that would send all these good people to hell?
    The risk I took was calculated but man, am I bad at math.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I say that he [Trump] is the most honest guy to come down the pike in a very long while.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    John 3:7
    "Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous."

    Ezekiel 18:5-9
    “If a man is righteous and does what is just and right— if he does not eat upon the mountains or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, does not defile his neighbor's wife or approach a woman in her time of menstrual impurity, does not oppress anyone, but restores to the debtor his pledge, commits no robbery, gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with a garment, does not lend at interest or take any profit, withholds his hand from injustice, executes true justice between man and man, walks in my statutes, and keeps my rules by acting faithfully—he is righteous; he shall surely live, declares the Lord God."

    Proverbs 29:7
    "A righteous man knows the rights of the poor; a wicked man does not understand such knowledge."

    Etc., etc., etc.
    Like the Bible says, "All have sinned..." - Romans 3:10
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    So lets create this hypothetical person, this person is the nicest person in the world and did literally nothing wrong, except the only "sin" she has ever committed is that she doesn't worship your god. Do you think on that merit alone this person should go to hell. Or lets go with someone more real, the atheist firefighters who save people lives from burning buildings every day. The atheist police officers who protect and serve without ever once praying to god to protect them. The atheist men and women in the armed forces (like myself in due time) who fight for your freedom to worship any god you want do you think they too should go to hell for simply not believing in your god? Answer this very simple question please. Don't quote a bible scripture and do not sing a hymn. Use your own thought process and tell me why you choose to worship and derive your morals from a god that would send all these good people to hell?
    You folks want to get into this more then I recommend you start a thread on it. This thread is about Hillary, who is an incompetent and corrupt, scandal-ridden liar.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Like the Bible says, "All have sinned..." - Romans 3:10
    Yes, it also says:

    "Judge not, that you be not judged." - Matthew 7:1

    “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone...” - John 8:7

    I can cherrypick the Bible as easily as you.

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