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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    It must be idyllic to live in a world where there's no sense of righteousness and no role models for truth and personal integrity; where the best leader one can come up with is a lying, corrupt, and self-aggrandizing has-been.
    You don't need to be religious to have a sense of righteousness or religious role models in order to understand truth and personal integrity. That's something you concocted out of thin air.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 04-14-15 at 12:03 PM.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You don't need to be religious to have a sense of righteousness or religious role models in order to understand truth and personal integrity. That's something you concocted out of thin air.
    You need a sense of God to see the difference between the world's sense of righteousness and God's.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Until I know who's running and what their actual positions are I have no idea who I'm voting for.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You need a sense of God to see the difference between the world's sense of righteousness and God's.
    Lol, that's cute and everything, but it's got nothing to do what your stated earlier. As a matter of fact, it's a self fulfilling prophecy with little bearing on the topic. Yes, you need a sense of your religious deity to under what they think is right. No kidding, I bet that sounds really enlightening to all of the plebes at your Sunday school. However, the fact still remains: A person doesn't need to be religious to have a sense of righteousness. They also don't need any role models to understand truth and personal integrity.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, that's cute and everything, but it's got nothing to do what your stated earlier. As a matter of fact, it's a self fulfilling prophecy with little bearing on the topic. Yes, you need a sense of your religious deity to under what they think is right. No kidding, I bet that sounds really enlightening to all of the plebes at your Sunday school. However, the fact still remains: A person doesn't need to be religious to have a sense of righteousness. They also don't need any role models to understand truth and personal integrity.
    And I'm telling you that you're absolutely wrong.

    A good man in God's eyes is an entirely different animal than a good man in the world's eyes.

    "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." - Mark 10:18

    Isaiah - a man and prophet of God - got a rude awakening in Isaiah chapter 6 when he beheld a truly righteous God:

    "Woe to me! I cried. I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.

    And IMO, anyone who thinks Hillary is a good and/or godly woman is a full quart low of godly values and intellect.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    And I'm telling you that you're absolutely wrong.
    I'm only wrong if you can show that a person can't be righteous, and understanding of truth, without a role model. Can you do that? All I have to do to prove my point is show a single person doing everything you said couldn't be done without having 'a sense of god'. You want to take that bet? Or are you going to recite your Sunday school sermon some more?
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm only wrong if you can show that a person can't be righteous, and understanding of truth, without a role model. Can you do that? All I have to do to prove my point is show a single person doing everything you said couldn't be done without having 'a sense of god'. You want to take that bet? Or are you going to recite your Sunday school sermon some more?
    Listen, there's no one who hasn't sinned. You show me the perfect man and you win.

    And then we have Hillary, who is about as far away from being a righteous individual as you can get.

    Here's the short list on her:

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    That's your woman. The hope of the Democratic party. LOL!
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    god fearing people owned slaves in the south..hmmm but god fearing people helped free them too...just a thought...I feel Hillary would do more for poor and sick people than any Christian tea party president from the south..does that make her closer to god and jesus
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Listen, there's no one who hasn't sinned. You show me the perfect man and you win.
    Which refutes your statement suggesting that there is a direct relationship between righteousness, being truthful, having integrity and having religion and its role models as some sort of compass. There isn't. A person can be righteous, truthful and have have moral integrity without being religious or looking to religious role models. Likewise, a person can be a complete moral degenerate while accepting everything taught in the bible. There is simply no relationship between morality and a belief in god that states that one can't exist without the other. Do you have anything else to add?
    Last edited by Hatuey; 04-14-15 at 08:29 PM.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I think that she can age any dam way she pleases!
    Absolutely. And I can criticize her as I please.

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