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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Perhaps the crazies on the right who believe more absurd things are just louder and more vocal.
    Yes I would agree, and angrier.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I would have preferred Hillary to Obama in 2008. Pretty sure I said so here at DP. As of now? Her age certainly concerns me. So did Reagan's. I'd prefer to wait and see who the candidates are on both sides of the ticket. Heck, I might just run again, too.
    Mirrors me perfectly. I was aghast that an unqualified empty suit with a winning smile, who had never finished a single term of any elected office, got the nomination. I refused to vote for Obama in 2008, and went for a write-in.

    Now I'm waiting to see who the actual candidates are before I make a decision. I've voted for more republican presidents than democratic in my lifetime, but there are some serious nutter-butters in the republican party at the moment.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Mirrors me perfectly. I was aghast that an unqualified empty suit with a winning smile, who had never finished a single term of any elected office, got the nomination. I refused to vote for Obama in 2008, and went for a write-in.
    Agree 100%. Refused to vote for President in 2008. Hillary knows politics and how to deal. She'd have been much better than Obama... and tougher, too.

    Now I'm waiting to see who the actual candidates are before I make a decision. I've voted for more republican presidents than democratic in my lifetime, but there are some serious nutter-butters in the republican party at the moment.
    Yeah, I want to see who this year's cast of clowns is before I consider who's the least clownish.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And yet some laugh at having a larger field of candidates. Seems the Democratic field of candidates has always been running to the smaller (coronation, style)
    In 2012, Obama (as the incumbent) obviously didn't face a primary; Republicans had Romney, Santorum and Gingrich.

    In 2008, the Dems had Obama, Hillary and Edwards; Reps had McCain, Romney and Huckabee.

    In 2004, Kerry, Edwards, Clark and Dean; no Republican primary.

    In 2000, Gore; Reps had Bush and McCain.

    In 1996, no Democratic primary; Reps had Dole, Buchanan and Forbes.

    In 1992, Clinton, Tsongas, Jerry Brown, Bob Kerrey and Tom Harkin; no Republican primary.

    The GOP might have a few extra folks like Bachmann who don't have a prayer, but for the most part, each party has 2-4 "serious" candidates each cycle and that's about it. The idea that the Democrats simply "coronate" their nominees is false.

    * -- limiting the field to candidates who carried states.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In 2012, Obama (as the incumbent) obviously didn't face a primary; Republicans had Romney, Santorum and Gingrich.

    In 2008, the Dems had Obama, Hillary and Edwards; Reps had McCain, Romney and Huckabee.

    In 2004, Kerry, Edwards, Clark and Dean; no Republican primary.

    In 2000, Gore; Reps had Bush and McCain.

    In 1996, no Democratic primary; Reps had Dole, Buchanan and Forbes.

    In 1992, Clinton, Tsongas, Jerry Brown, Bob Kerrey and Tom Harkin; no Republican primary.

    The GOP might have a few extra folks like Bachmann who don't have a prayer, but for the most part, each party has 2-4 "serious" candidates each cycle and that's about it. The idea that the Democrats simply "coronate" their nominees is false.* -- limiting the field to candidates who carried states.
    I agree. This is sort of new for democrats who usually have a fairly wide open field. It is republicans who tend to go with 'the next guy in line.' That's how we got presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. In 2008, Hillary was a clear early favorite but had solid challengers in Obama and Edwards. This is really shaping up to be the first 'coronation' on the democrat side and I suspect it wont turn out well.

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I agree. This is sort of new for democrats who usually have a fairly wide open field. It is republicans who tend to go with 'the next guy in line.' That's how we got presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. In 2008, Hillary was a clear early favorite but had solid challengers in Obama and Edwards. This is really shaping up to be the first 'coronation' on the democrat side and I suspect it wont turn out well.
    Gore really only had one primary challenger in Bill Bradley, but he also had been the VP for eight years. He's the last one I recall who was basically handed the nomination.

    It's early yet to start branding the 2016 Democratic party process as a "coronation." Biden could still decide to run. Any number of others could as well.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I just watched her announcement video.
    Good Lord that woman just does not have the political chops.
    She was in the last 45 seconds or so ... her piece was shot in soft-focus ... should have been a voiceover ... simply not appealing ... her image screams corruption ... terrible person.
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    Margaret Thatcher was elected as Prime Minister of England at age 54. She served three terms and retired at age 65. Hillary was born in 1947, so if she wins the election for POTUS in 2016, she will be 69 years old when she starts her term. Age discrimination is against the law, but the office of POTUS is probably the most grueling job in the world, and I question why she would even consider putting herself through that. For the fame and glory, or the distinction of being the first woman POTUS?

    Whatever she feels she wants to do is her decision to make, of course, but we have seen how the job ages even younger people, and I am surprised she is even running, since she has said many times in the past that she was not interested. Perhaps she meant "at the time she was asked." People can change their minds, so I would say "Go For It If It's Important To You," but she, or anyone else, is certainly going to have their hands full with all the problems BHO will leave to whoever wins the election. I wouldn't wish that on anyone... not at this point with all the globe in turmoil! I doubt that Solomon, who is reputed to have been the wisest man who ever lived, would find that task easy....

    The next 18 months should be interesting, to say the least!

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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Perhaps the crazies on the right who believe more absurd things are just louder and more vocal.
    this board did not exist in 2000-2001. the ones that did-ABC, CNN for example, seethed with Democrats claiming Bush was "(S)elected or that the USSC was bought off by rich right-wingers or that the Israelis, with Bush's knowledge, caused 9-11 so Americans would back a war against Israel's enemies
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I agree. This is sort of new for democrats who usually have a fairly wide open field. It is republicans who tend to go with 'the next guy in line.' That's how we got presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. In 2008, Hillary was a clear early favorite but had solid challengers in Obama and Edwards. This is really shaping up to be the first 'coronation' on the democrat side and I suspect it wont turn out well.
    I agree. This goes back to the 70's. I vaguely remember '72, but the Democrats had several candidates. '76 was similar. Even in '80, it was just Reagan and Bush.
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    Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Gore really only had one primary challenger in Bill Bradley, but he also had been the VP for eight years. He's the last one I recall who was basically handed the nomination.

    It's early yet to start branding the 2016 Democratic party process as a "coronation." Biden could still decide to run. Any number of others could as well.
    Yes, I think a sitting vice president who decides to run would be generally difficult to beat in a primary. Unless its Biden. I don't think enough people take him seriously. Perhaps if he gets in that will change. As much of a goof as Biden seems, he is a very likeable, NORMAL guy. I think he would probably make a pretty decent president believe it or not. He is definitely to the left, but he is not an ideologue. His years in the Senate would probably make him far more likely to look for compromise than dig in his heels. He showed in the VP debate against Ryan that he is no dummy and can hold his own.

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