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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    God no.

    It was crap before, but it was ordered crap for the most part.

    Now, it's a bloody ruin.

    An immense waste of money, American military lives, and Iraqi civilian lives.
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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    OK who's the guy that watch's Fox News & voted yes?

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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?


    Shia Iran is way better off now that their Shia brothers in Iraq are in charge there.

    The rest of the Middle East isn't doing so good.

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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What it shows, is that it exploded after the invasion, leveled out while continuing, then exploded again. Which brings me back to the conclusion, no its not better.
    I suppose we would all be better off with Saddam back in power...

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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I suppose we would all be better off with Saddam back in power...
    Well the whole ****ing region wasnt destabilized.... We could play the would coulda shoulda game all we want. But one thing is for sure: Al-Qaeda/Radical Jihadis did not have the power to destabilize the whole ****ing region before 2003...
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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well the whole ****ing region wasnt destabilized.... We could play the would coulda shoulda game all we want. But one thing is for sure: Al-Qaeda/Radical Jihadis did not have the power to destabilize the whole ****ing region before 2003...
    Wasnt that the intent of the OP...to play the shoulda woulda coulda game?
    There is no doubt things could have been handled better. There is no doubt things would have turned out better had both major political parties sold out the Soldiers in theater in the name of politics. There is no doubt our enemies would not be emboldened if they knew we were unified in kicking their ass.

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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Much better off. Now the scum is seeping out of the wood works and we/they now know who to smack. These previously "hidden" factions are more visible now and are being drawn into open conflict instead of a "secret" conflict. Open conflict is always better than terrorism and criminal type conflicts.

    It would be even better for them in the future if we had real strong leadership instead of a dickless muslim dog.
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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Much better off. Now the scum is seeping out of the wood works and we/they now know who to smack. These previously "hidden" factions are more visible now and are being drawn into open conflict instead of a "secret" conflict. Open conflict is always better than terrorism and criminal type conflicts.

    It would be even better for them in the future if we had real strong leadership instead of a dickless muslim dog.
    So...open conflicts are always better - even though they almost always result in FAR more casualties?

    Okaaaaaay...I certainly hope you never attain military/political power.
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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?
    Interesting question. Nobody predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. Major changes often happen without much warning.

    I'm thinking yes. Here is why. Sadam was CIA liability. We know this. The guy was a megalomaniac. He was a liability and had a history of invasion. In an area that unstable? Can you really have a guy invading everyone? Especially with oil in the area that could change prices and cripple the economies of Europe?

    Now. To Isis. Yea. They are a problem. Short term. They are organizing and causing hell. They aren't using wmds to gas their own people though. That was Sadam. These guys aren't much more than well armed terrorists. They are killing their own people too. And they are pissing EVERYONE off while they do it.

    So. Let's just watch. I'm betting Isis won't last and the world will benefit from not having a bag of cats running the world's third largest army in a major flashpoint.

    Tl;dr points

    1) Sadam was unpredictable
    2) Third largest army
    3) History of invasion
    4) Cia liability
    5) wmds used to gas own people
    6) Isis is already experiencing infighting
    7) Isis is "small" and will face death at the hands of Muslims. Not the west. They have killed too many innocents. They have killed their own. You can't violate consistently sun Tzu and survive.

    Yes. The world is better off. But let's wait for it to get out of current events before we pass judgement hm?
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    Re: Is the Middle East better off since the day before Operation Iraqi Freedom began?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So...open conflicts are always better - even though they almost always result in FAR more casualties?

    Okaaaaaay...I certainly hope you never attain military/political power.
    Sadam would likely have continued open conflict. He had already had invaded multiple nations and gased his own people. Imagine the chaos when he died? Plus he was an embodiment of cia/American intervention. Now he is gone and we are going hand off.
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