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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You seem nice.
    Just pointing out facts Sir!

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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Why do you keep posting the same YT clip?
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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    brutal regimes are ok if it makes american capitalists richer
    Chile has got one of the best economies in Latin America so they definitely benefited from it.

    do you really think its this simple

    none of these countries on their own have enough of an industrial base nor the natural resources to bring about socialism
    Are you kidding me? Venezuela used to be one of the top oil producing nations of the world until the socialists took over, now they have a severe shortage of toilet paper. If the USSR couldnt bring about communism what makes you think any nation can?

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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Chile has got one of the best economies in Latin America so they definitely benefited from it.
    Their best economic performance took place well after Pinochet was forced out of office, not to mention that old correlation ≠ causation thing that seems to have slipped your mind.


    Are you kidding me? Venezuela used to be one of the top oil producing nations of the world until the socialists took over, now they have a severe shortage of toilet paper. If the USSR couldnt bring about communism what makes you think any nation can?
    Last quarter GDP growth rate in Venezuela = 6.8%. I think the US and all of Europe would kill for stats like that.

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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Their best economic performance took place well after Pinochet was forced out of office, not to mention that old correlation ≠ causation thing that seems to have slipped your mind.
    Chile's economy has been great since the 1970's the moment Pinochet came to power and started to employ libertarian free market principles and these economic policies continued until recently so nice try at deflection.

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    Last quarter GDP growth rate in Venezuela = 6.8%. I think the US and all of Europe would kill for stats like that.
    Very misleading statement considering that the quarter before that Venezuela had a 0% growth rate (its posted a negative or less than 1% GDP growth rate in 6 of the last 12 quarters) and that these stats which are coming from their central bank may not really be accurate either.

    Venezuela GDP Growth Rate | 1997-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Goebbels was an admitted Marxist. I know you don't know that because you lack education on these things but try to grasp it mentally from your intellectual superiors. The vast majority of Nazi ideologues were Marxist before they changed to National Socialism.
    If Nazis are fans of Marxists, then why did they target Communists and other people they deemed political enemies once they got into power?
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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i think far in the future we will look primitive to them by their standards of thinking, as many people think today that those who loved in the past were primitive.

    the problem with people thinking is they do not live in the times they wish to judge, and therefore and do not understand why things were as they were.
    You didn't really answer the question, but okay.
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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by van basten View Post
    you didn't really answer the question, but okay.
    sure i did, i belive people will see us crude, and as racist...based on their standards.
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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You are going to have to back your argument up with something like evidence (NB: grainy pictures of Marx and an out-of-context quote don't count) if you are going to avoid being treated with laughing disdain.
    The quote is not only out of context, but it isn't even a full quote. If you look closely at the picture it cites two different sources for each part of the quote.
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    Re: Karl Marx the Racist. Do most people know?

    Marx was quite racist. And sexist.


    What most people don’t know is that Marx was an out and out racist and anti-Semite. He didn’t think much of Mexicans. Concerning the annexation of California after the Mexican-American War, Marx wrote: “Without violence, nothing is ever accomplished in history.” Then he asks, “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” Friedrich Engels, Marx’s co-author of the “Manifesto of the Communist Party,” added, “In America, we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will be placed under the tutelage of the United States.” Much of Marx’s ideas can be found in a book written by former communist Nathaniel Weyl, titled “Karl Marx, Racist” (1979).

    In a July 1862 letter to Engels, in reference to his socialist political competitor, Ferdinand Lassalle, Marx wrote, “… it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a nigger. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”

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