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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Until the sanctions regime crumbles, which it very well would if the US walks away from a decent deal. The sanctions regime crumbles, the US has very little leverage.
    As more details emerge it is appearing to be a bad deal.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    OK, an independent observer who has followed the debate in Canada's House of Commons about civilian casualties stemming from the war on terror especially Afghanistan, I have to make a value judgment of what you offer and what is offered in contrast.

    What is offered in contrast is journalism, edited and fact checked in the journalistic traditions I practiced for 25 years plus. The Washington Post is a noted right leaning newspaper and is quoting two well known international civil rights organizations who have added their name to Doctors Without Borders in saying the US is less than honest in reporting the number of civilian casualties.

    You offer a blog. A blog by a savagely right wing military geek with charts and graphs and nice colors, but doesn't appear to directly address the topic you are defending, that the US is really very efficient in killing.

    What I do recall from the Commons debate, where our politicians lose their job if caught in a lie, is that in one drone attack, there were 19 attempts and they never did get the guy. Left unsaid was that each of those 19 attacks claimed lives of some kind and probably human.

    We are dealing with a nation that has been waging war on terror for 14 years...and is losing. We began with one war, then two, now there are seven fronts and no sign of ever, ever leveling off let alone ending, a nation that had the criminal mastermind in its sights, but took ten years to assassinate him. A nation's whose intelligence community completely missed the fall of the Berlin Wall, the 911 attacks, misread Arab Spring as friendly and claimed the assassination of a sitting diplomat and three marines was a "spontaneous demonstration" Yes I know that was Obama, but he is your commander in chief and represents the entire US military.

    So, with that, you offer as dispute that there aren't too many civilians being slaughtered, an internet blog that doesn't appear to deal with civilian casualties, but reads like a boyscout endorsement of US war policy.

    It is a matter of who is believable and it has been my experience in lifetime of research that NGO's like Doctor's Without Borders are far and away, no ****ing light years more believable the United States Pentagon and the Military Industrial Complex that it supports.

    I would say you are guilty of what you deny...you only read that which supports your opinion and it doesn't seem to matter what is the source material.
    "The Washington Post is a noted right leaning newspaper"? I can only assume you are joking. Like most big-city U.S. newspapers, it is noted for being left- leaning.

    The Long War Journal is by far the most authoritative source of information on this subject that I know of. Obviously a lot of other people think that, too--just look at the list on the site of who has cited them as authority.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    This whole thing is about money & power.

    Republicans want to make Obama look bad. Also they want to keep US arms dealers to selling to Saudi Arabia & wealth countries in the ME.

    Saudi Arabia & Israel want to be the main powers in the ME. They want to keep the sanctions on Iran or have them fighting a War. The Israeli military police has said that Iran is not making Nukes.


    Well sort of. Then there is the sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia.

    Republicans don't need to make BO look bad. Bo has proven he is the worst of the worst. But naturally Republicans should point out when Bo is looking bad. Its not like the Demos are going to say much of anything when he screws up.

    Only a few in the Mossad believe that and even Netanyahu's opposition agrees on Iran being a threat to Israel. Which that all just came out with the Israeli election.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Attack.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well sort of. Then there is the sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia.

    Republicans don't need to make BO look bad. Bo has proven he is the worst of the worst. But naturally Republicans should point out when Bo is looking bad. Its not like the Demos are going to say much of anything when he screws up.

    Only a few in the Mossad believe that and even Netanyahu's opposition agrees on Iran being a threat to Israel. Which that all just came out with the Israeli election.
    The worst of the worst is the president who started this misadventure in Iraq March 20, 2003 and said "Mission Accomplished" May 1, 2003.


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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well sort of. Then there is the sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia.

    Republicans don't need to make BO look bad. Bo has proven he is the worst of the worst. But naturally Republicans should point out when Bo is looking bad. Its not like the Demos are going to say much of anything when he screws up.

    Only a few in the Mossad believe that and even Netanyahu's opposition agrees on Iran being a threat to Israel. Which that all just came out with the Israeli election.
    Sunni and Shia? So attack Iran & have both of them pissed at us. You want to fight both sides.

    Netanyahu did not win in a land slide. More US Jews are against him than for him.

    Saudi Arabia & Israel don't want Iran to have a strong economy & be friendly to the US. The deal is the best deal in the history of Nuke deals. Don't listen to the BS war mongers, they have their own special interest, & its not peace. As always this **** comes down to money.

    Iran is the only country in the ME fighting ISIS. Saudi Arabia is the one who funded ISIS & Al Qaeda.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The worst of the worst is the president who started this misadventure in Iraq March 20, 2003 and said "Mission Accomplished" May 1, 2003.


    Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror. Lost Afghanistan. Failed with Iraq and their weak leaders. Screwed up with Libya. Failed in Syria. Blew Yemen like a Keystone cop.

    Failed with the Russian reset. Oh my, Ukraine. Failed with the Asian Pivot Twice now. Failed to make the Pivot to Africa. Not to mention hasn't brought a Treaty home yet.

    It's another reason why BO peep and his lost sheep are so desperate for a deal.....especially BO who was hoping to change that Historic Legacy of Failure where the Big boys play.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?
    no.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror. Lost Afghanistan. Failed with Iraq and their weak leaders. Screwed up with Libya. Failed in Syria. Blew Yemen like a Keystone cop.

    Failed with the Russian reset. Oh my, Ukraine. Failed with the Asian Pivot Twice now. Failed to make the Pivot to Africa. Not to mention hasn't brought a Treaty home yet.

    It's another reason why BO peep and his lost sheep are so desperate for a deal.....especially BO who was hoping to change that Historic Legacy of Failure where the Big boys play.
    Obama is GWB only smarter.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    Sunni and Shia? So attack Iran & have both of them pissed at us. You want to fight both sides.

    Netanyahu did not win in a land slide. More US Jews are against him than for him.

    Saudi Arabia & Israel don't want Iran to have a strong economy & be friendly to the US. The deal is the best deal in the history of Nuke deals. Don't listen to the BS war mongers, they have their own special interest, & its not peace. As always this **** comes down to money.

    Iran is the only country in the ME fighting ISIS. Saudi Arabia is the one who funded ISIS & Al Qaeda.


    How do you get attack both Sunni and Shia out their own sectarian divide in attacking each other?

    Netanyahu didn't have to win in a landslide he just had to win.....still this changes nothing from him saying come up with a better plan. Or the opposition siding with him on Iran.

    The Saud and the Sunni naturally want to subjugate the Shia and any other Arabs. Vice versa with Iran.....that's what their sectarian divide is partly about.

    No Iran is not.....the Aussies, the Kurds, and some of our Troopers and Fly Boys and girls are in too.

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