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Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

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MMC said:
Well sort of. Then there is the sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia.

Republicans don't need to make BO look bad. Bo has proven he is the worst of the worst. But naturally Republicans should point out when Bo is looking bad. Its not like the Demos are going to say much of anything when he screws up.

Only a few in the Mossad believe that and even Netanyahu's opposition agrees on Iran being a threat to Israel. Which that all just came out with the Israeli election.
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Sunni and Shia? So attack Iran & have both of them pissed at us. You want to fight both sides.

Netanyahu did not win in a land slide. More US Jews are against him than for him.

Saudi Arabia & Israel don't want Iran to have a strong economy & be friendly to the US. The deal is the best deal in the history of Nuke deals. Don't listen to the BS war mongers, they have their own special interest, & its not peace. As always this **** comes down to money.

Iran is the only country in the ME fighting ISIS. Saudi Arabia is the one who funded ISIS & Al Qaeda.
 
pbrauer said:
The worst of the worst is the president who started this misadventure in Iraq March 20, 2003 and said "Mission Accomplished" May 1, 2003.

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Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror. Lost Afghanistan. Failed with Iraq and their weak leaders. Screwed up with Libya. Failed in Syria. Blew Yemen like a Keystone cop.

Failed with the Russian reset. Oh my, Ukraine. Failed with the Asian Pivot Twice now. Failed to make the Pivot to Africa. Not to mention hasn't brought a Treaty home yet.

It's another reason why BO peep and his lost sheep are so desperate for a deal.....especially BO who was hoping to change that Historic Legacy of Failure where the Big boys play.
 
MMC said:
Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror. Lost Afghanistan. Failed with Iraq and their weak leaders. Screwed up with Libya. Failed in Syria. Blew Yemen like a Keystone cop.

Failed with the Russian reset. Oh my, Ukraine. Failed with the Asian Pivot Twice now. Failed to make the Pivot to Africa. Not to mention hasn't brought a Treaty home yet.

It's another reason why BO peep and his lost sheep are so desperate for a deal.....especially BO who was hoping to change that Historic Legacy of Failure where the Big boys play.
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Obama is GWB only smarter.
 
kjwins said:
Sunni and Shia? So attack Iran & have both of them pissed at us. You want to fight both sides.

Netanyahu did not win in a land slide. More US Jews are against him than for him.

Saudi Arabia & Israel don't want Iran to have a strong economy & be friendly to the US. The deal is the best deal in the history of Nuke deals. Don't listen to the BS war mongers, they have their own special interest, & its not peace. As always this **** comes down to money.

Iran is the only country in the ME fighting ISIS. Saudi Arabia is the one who funded ISIS & Al Qaeda.
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How do you get attack both Sunni and Shia out their own sectarian divide in attacking each other?

Netanyahu didn't have to win in a landslide he just had to win.....still this changes nothing from him saying come up with a better plan. Or the opposition siding with him on Iran.

The Saud and the Sunni naturally want to subjugate the Shia and any other Arabs. Vice versa with Iran.....that's what their sectarian divide is partly about.

No Iran is not.....the Aussies, the Kurds, and some of our Troopers and Fly Boys and girls are in too.
 
MMC said:
Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror.
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Clearly the only way to get ahead of the War on Terror is to start a war with Iran. The US can name it 'Operation: When Shia Hits the Fan'.
 
MMC said:
Bush Jr. doesn't even compare. BO said he had AQ on the run.....then they morphed and grew. Then BO has been Losing the war on Terror. Lost Afghanistan. Failed with Iraq and their weak leaders. Screwed up with Libya. Failed in Syria. Blew Yemen like a Keystone cop.

Failed with the Russian reset. Oh my, Ukraine. Failed with the Asian Pivot Twice now. Failed to make the Pivot to Africa. Not to mention hasn't brought a Treaty home yet.

It's another reason why BO peep and his lost sheep are so desperate for a deal.....especially BO who was hoping to change that Historic Legacy of Failure where the Big boys play.
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Most of the problems we have in the ME are due to the invasion of Iraq. When Bush declared North Korea, Iraq and Iran the Axis of Evil, he said Iran was next.
 
Amadeus said:
Clearly the only way to get ahead of the War on Terror is to start a war with Iran. The US can name it 'Operation: When Shia Hits the Fan'.
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Well that doesn't help with the Sunni and their versions of Radical Islam. So you would be only covering half with the Shia.

Although, we can always fall back on giving them a planet.....let them colonize it and we can still keep them as part of the Federation.

We can name it the Klingon Homeworld.....Oh wait, someone had that idea already. :2razz:
 
MMC said:
How do you get attack both Sunni and Shia out their own sectarian divide in attacking each other?

Netanyahu didn't have to win in a landslide he just had to win.....still this changes nothing from him saying come up with a better plan. Or the opposition siding with him on Iran.

The Saud and the Sunni naturally want to subjugate the Shia and any other Arabs. Vice versa with Iran.....that's what their sectarian divide is partly about.

No Iran is not.....the Aussies, the Kurds, and some of our Troopers and Fly Boys and girls are in too.
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We are fighting ISIS, if we attack Iran, we will be fighting both sides. Sunni and Shia.

Netanyahu is out for Netanyahu. End of story.

I would trust Iran before Saudi Arabia, sponsor of ISIS & Al Qaeda. Sure Iran has some nut balls. Put those people know they are losing power over the people. 80% of the common people in Iran like the US, & want our way of life. Also did you know that there is a Jewish population that lives in Iran.
 
Amadeus said:
I know! Obama hasn't even started any wars. What kind of president is he? The *****.
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I'm no Obama fan, but what do you call LIBYA? Ukraine? Syria? Yemen?
 
pbrauer said:
Most of the problems we have in the ME are due to the invasion of Iraq. When Bush declared North Korea, Iraq and Iran the Axis of Evil, he said Iran was next.
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Well even Bill Clinton was bombing Saddam long before Bush Jr entered the game.....also it was Bilbo Clintons Framework Understanding that helped NKorea get their Nuke under Bush Jr. Plus it was Bill Clinton that started giving some relief to Iran, thinking they wanted to join the rest of the global community.

All in the name of the Democratic Party and their Ideology of leaning left-like. While Representing the US. Sounds eerily familiar doesn't it.....


.....well except for all those other BO peep screw-ups. So I definitely would say BO peep does beats out Bilbo and what he had in his pocketsses.
 
MMC said:
Well even Bill Clinton was bombing Saddam long before Bush Jr entered the game.....also it was Bilbo Clintons Framework Understanding that helped NKorea get their Nuke under Bush Jr. Plus it was Bill Clinton that started giving some relief to Iran, thinking they wanted to join the rest of the global community.

All in the name of the Democratic Party and their Ideology of leaning left-like. While Representing the US. Sounds eerily familiar doesn't it.....


.....well except for all those other BO peep screw-ups. So I definitely would say BO peep does beats out Bilbo and what he had in his pocketsses.
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Once Bush the Neo-Con named N. Korea part of the Axis. They kicked out the UN inspectors, & started building their Nukes. Because they know the US does not attack countries with Nukes. GWB ****ed up big time. He wanted the war & he got it. No reason to fight those wars, & spend 4 trillion dollar. Unless you stand to make some money on it.

War is a racket: Smedley Butler
 
^ Kind of like Sugar Crisp and not just Puffed Rice
 
matchlight said:
"The Washington Post is a noted right leaning newspaper"? I can only assume you are joking. Like most big-city U.S. newspapers, it is noted for being left- leaning.

The Long War Journal is by far the most authoritative source of information on this subject that I know of. Obviously a lot of other people think that, too--just look at the list on the site of who has cited them as authority.
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I agree I erred in "right" as I meant "left" but that's irrelevant to my point about authenticity. If you have some information on any mis-dealings on the part of the WP where they have misled, please indicate them, sneering at an award wining newspaper as "lefty" doesn't go anywhere.

As I took pains to point ouot and what you ignored and who is being quoted. NGO's that appear to have no dog in the hunt re Washington's politics and repeat your reference does NOT even deal with civilian deaths.

And I again raise the issue of who's been right and who's been wrong. The Pentagon or Doctor's Without Borders.

You have convinced me only that you are extremely biased
 
pbrauer said:
Most of the problems we have in the ME are due to the invasion of Iraq. When Bush declared North Korea, Iraq and Iran the Axis of Evil, he said Iran was next.
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Started with the invasion of Iraq?

I seem to recall an event some years way before when Iran committed an act of war against the US by attacking and kidnapping US citizens and diplomats. Then there was this little issue where the skies over America had to be shut down for two or three days because some middle eastern Islamic 'nice guys who need jobs' managed to elude US security for years, fool the CIA and almost destroy the pentagon and a large chunk of New York City.

Before that there was the "Cole", the embassy bombings and who can forget Reagan's bombing of Ghaddafy's house.

Oh yeah the invasion of Afghanistan was in there too, a war approved by almost every Democrat in the country

Yep, it's all new and George W. Bush invented it
 
kjwins said:
Once Bush the Neo-Con named N. Korea part of the Axis. They kicked out the UN inspectors, & started building their Nukes. Because they know the US does not attack countries with Nukes. GWB ****ed up big time. He wanted the war & he got it. No reason to fight those wars, & spend 4 trillion dollar. Unless you stand to make some money on it.

War is a racket: Smedley Butler
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Iran is following the same game plan as N Korea. They would not discuss their Military programs. Moreover Clinton dropped 4 billion and supplied N. Korea. The entire time they worked on getting their Nuke and announced then announced under Bush Jr, while already was producing more than just one Nuke.

Being 2-3months away? An estimation, a hope. For over 25 years this is what Iran has strived for. Getting here they will have hegemony over all other Arabs in the region. Israel is the secondary consideration.


 
Fearandloathing said:
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Started with the invasion of Iraq?

I seem to recall an event some years way before when Iran committed an act of war against the US by attacking and kidnapping US citizens and diplomats. Then there was this little issue where the skies over America had to be shut down for two or three days because some middle eastern Islamic 'nice guys who need jobs' managed to elude US security for years, fool the CIA and almost destroy the pentagon and a large chunk of New York City.

Before that there was the "Cole", the embassy bombings and who can forget Reagan's bombing of Ghaddafy's house.

Oh yeah the invasion of Afghanistan was in there too, a war approved by almost every Democrat in the country

Yep, it's all new and George W. Bush invented it
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Don't forget that the US also sponsor a coup in Iran in to overthrow the democratic elected government of Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1954. Who was part that coup, Ayatollah Khomeini. Yes he was a friend of ours at one time.

But we must never look at our own crimes. Just polarize the crimes against us. WOW I wonder why they don't trust us in a Nuke deal?
 
kjwins said:
Once Bush the Neo-Con named N. Korea part of the Axis. They kicked out the UN inspectors, & started building their Nukes. Because they know the US does not attack countries with Nukes. GWB ****ed up big time. He wanted the war & he got it. No reason to fight those wars, & spend 4 trillion dollar. Unless you stand to make some money on it.

War is a racket: Smedley Butler
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Repeating yourself makes less sense...

You said all US problems in the middle east began with George Bush's invasion of Iraq.

That's wrong and you won't admit it.

I don't think you are to be believed and I know you cannot define what is a "neo con" it's socialist propaganda. I guess the Democrats who voted in favor of that invasion are "neo cons" as well...

Good bye
 
MMC said:
Iran is following the same game plan as N Korea. They would not discuss their Military programs. Moreover Clinton dropped 4 billion and supplied N. Korea. The entire time they worked on getting their Nuke and announced then announced under Bush Jr, while already was producing more than just one Nuke.

Being 2-3months away? An estimation, a hope. For over 25 years this is what Iran has strived for. Getting here they will have hegemony over all other Arabs in the region. Israel is the secondary consideration.


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All this proves is that propaganda is a bitch. Not even any content in the vid. What does this have to do with GWB ****ing up the ME.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Repeating yourself makes less sense...

You said all US problems in the middle east began with George Bush's invasion of Iraq.

That's wrong and you won't admit it.

I don't think you are to be believed.
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That's your opinion, & you like to leave out parts of history relevant to you're point. Who is not to be believed?
 
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