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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You mean the nuclear facilities scattered throughout all of Iran? Those nuclear facilities?
    It's not as if there are a vast number of key facilities. A mere handful of locations would need to be targeted in order to effectively degrade their capabilities.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You mean the nuclear facilities scattered throughout all of Iran? Those nuclear facilities?
    Let the Saudi's with their client states, Turkey, Egypt and the minors go for it.
    The place has been headed for all out war for some time now.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    It's not as if there are a swath of key facilities. There are but a handful of locations that would need to be targeted in order to effectively degrade their capabilities.
    The facts, as told by Fareed Zakaria:

    A nuclear deal with Iran is the best option - The Washington Post

    People speak of a strike on Iran like Israel’s against an Iraqi reactor in 1981 and a Syrian facility in 2007. But those were single facilities. Iran, by contrast, has a vast nuclear industry, comprising many installations spread across the country, some close to population centers, others in mountainous terrain. The United States would effectively have to go to war with Iran, destroying its air defenses, then attacking its facilities in dozens — perhaps hundreds — of sorties. The bombers would be equipped with highly explosive weapons, demolishing buildings, reactors and laboratories, but also producing considerable collateral damage.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I know! Obama hasn't even started any wars. What kind of president is he? The pussy.
    Nonsense, Obama has started drone wars all over the globe. He takes no prisoners and kills lots of civilians because drones are indiscriminate. He does this because the only place he can put prisoners is Gitmo, which he's trying to empty.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Sounds about right, although the term many is a bit of an overstatement. Their nuclear program would not be utterly destroyed by targeted strikes, but rather effectively delayed and hopefully deterred from future exploration. Dempsey has said as much in the past. In either event, attacking their AA capabilities alongside all others necessary to accomplish this task obviously doesn't rise to the level of broad commitment we saw in Iraq, let alone the troop deployment. That's simply fear mongering by Uygur.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Nonsense, Obama has started drone wars all over the globe. He takes no prisoners and kills lots of civilians because drones are indiscriminate. He does this because the only place he can put prisoners is Gitmo, which he's trying to empty.
    Drones are not indiscriminate. In fact, they're among the most precise and humane forms of warfare in the history of mankind.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Sounds about right, although the term many is a bit of an overstatement. Their nuclear program would not be utterly destroyed by targeted strikes, but rather effectively delayed and hopefully deterred from future exploration. Dempsey has said as much in the past. In either event, attacking their AA capabilities alongside all others necessary to accomplish this task obviously doesn't rise to the level of broad commitment we saw in Iraq, let alone the troop deployment. That's simply fear mongering by Uygur.
    Cenk is absolutely right. The Iraq Invasion was proposed to the American people as a quick operation, costly effectively nothing in the way of blood or treasure. The ONLY people calling for military action against Iran are the SAME EXACT PEOPLE who sold the Iraq War.


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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    With Barack Obama as commander in chief, the United States should not launch an attack on anyone. He'd just try to talk them to death and then surrender. Under his leadership, France is tougher.
    Hmm, not sure I'd agree - with B.O. in place to stink up the operation proper, he'd probably broadcast the date and time he planned on striking, with how strong a force, what kind of weapons, how long they'll be over target, altitude, air speed, GPS cords, along with resumes of the men involved; he'd arrange in advance for permission to enter Iranian air space, and probably accommodate the Ayatollahs by offering to go so far as to file a flight plan - in broken Farsi.

    And to keep the Israelis from mucking up his brilliant plan, he'll cut a deal with Hamas and Hezbollah to keep the Israeli defense forces busy in turn for a promise of land in Israel proper once he's successful removing Netanyahu from power.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Cenk is absolutely right. The Iraq Invasion was proposed to the American people as a quick operation, costly effectively nothing in the way of blood or treasure. The ONLY people calling for military action against Iran are the SAME EXACT PEOPLE who sold the Iraq War.

    Except that those same actors actually advocated an invasion at the time, whereas targeted strikes are what is being proposed by the vast majority today. Claiming that the same result will occur simply because of the commonality of the supporters is intellectually lazy.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Except that those same actors actually advocated an invasion at the time, whereas targeted strikes are what is being proposed by the vast majority today. Claiming that the same result will occur simply because of the commonality of the supporters is intellectually lazy.
    You should have followed that link I posted. More from Fareed:

    What would be the effect of such an attack? When any country is bombed by foreigners, its people tend to rally around the regime. The Islamic Republic would likely gain domestic support. It would also respond in various ways, through its allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and elsewhere. The attacks might be directed at U.S. troops or allies.

    An attack would also mean the splintering of the international coalition against Iran. Russia, China and many other countries would condemn it. Iran would be seen as the victim of an unprovoked invasion. The sanctions would crumble. Its nuclear program would be devastated, but Iran would begin to rebuild it. Even under the current sanctions regime, Iran makes tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues, more than enough to afford to rebuild its facilities.

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