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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I'm not a pacifist. Obama, and to a lesser point Bush, dialed back our rules of engagement that soldiers should have a lawyer to accompany them to justify wether or not they should engage the enemy. As long as these conditions exist, I'm not in favor of putting them in harms way. I won't support any war until the rules of engagement lets us kill em all and lets God sort it out. We should use overwhelming power, eliminate the enemy and then leave. Modern warfare is too PC to fight.

    In the interim, the occasional drone strike kills families and pisses off the neighborhood all in the name of not acquiring captives so the empty beds in GITMO can be filled.
    So you are bothered because we aren't killing ENOUGH civilians. Now I get it. I don't understand why we should risk lives to capture terrorists. What are we going to do with them? Feed and house them for the rest of their lives?

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So that means that the Iran-Iraq war was our war, too, huh?
    Well, lessee now. We gave Saddam precursors for poison gas and satellite info and we gave Iran spare parts for the aircraft etc. that we had sold them. It's the good ol' USA where, "War is good business, and business is good." Don't be missin' no marketing opportunities, eh?

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Well, lessee now. We gave Saddam precursors for poison gas and satellite info and we gave Iran spare parts for the aircraft etc. that we had sold them. It's the good ol' USA where, "War is good business, and business is good." Don't be missin' no marketing opportunities, eh?
    Well, the problem is, you're one of the very few who think that if we sell a bullet to one side or both sides in a war, we're somehow at war, too. Of course the fact that very few think this way doesn't automatically mean you're wrong...but dude, you're going to have a very, very hard time convincing almost every historian ever born that they're wrong about what constitutes wartime status of a nation.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Nah, he would only forecast what is to be bomnbed and when so they can get free.

    He's afraid of losing his peace prize
    LOL - but the only reason they'd take his peace prize away is to upgrade it to an appeasement prize, so he's got nothing to fear.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you are bothered because we aren't killing ENOUGH civilians. Now I get it. I don't understand why we should risk lives to capture terrorists. What are we going to do with them? Feed and house them for the rest of their lives?
    You don't get anything.. If we fight a war, we fight to win or we don't fight. War isn't something to do half way. That seems to be what the Obama administration has mastered.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    You don't get anything.. If we fight a war, we fight to win or we don't fight. War isn't something to do half way. That seems to be what the Obama administration has mastered.
    Actually Obama has mastered the withdrawal of troops from 2 war zones. I guess getting our men out of harms way is not a priority for you like it is for Obama. Dying for nothing is a Republican thing.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Actually Obama has mastered the withdrawal of troops from 2 war zones. I guess getting our men out of harms way is not a priority for you like it is for Obama. Dying for nothing is a Republican thing.
    Oh yea, you're right, his withdrawal from Iraq caused us to go back in and now we are bombing ISIS while they and their affiliates are taking over the Middle East and Africa. Tell me what a freaking genius Obama is. If he didn't learn his lesson in Afghanistan when we leave they will have to change the name to Talibanistan. Yemen was a model for his leading from behind strategy. Please tell me how that's working out.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Oh yea, you're right, his withdrawal from Iraq caused us to go back in and now we are bombing ISIS while they and their affiliates are taking over the Middle East and Africa. Tell me what a freaking genius Obama is. If he didn't learn his lesson in Afghanistan when we leave they will have to change the name to Talibanistan. Yemen was a model for his leading from behind strategy. Please tell me how that's working out.
    Well then there is how he left Libya....and what it has become today.

    He has failed in Foreign Policy in almost every way. Plus where is that trade treaty?

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Iran is already attacking US troops and allies through proxies and the support of terror groups throughout the regions/ That ship has sailed long ago. Whether or not sanctions could survive the attack is another matter. The degradation of their facilities lessens the need for sanctions in the short term, which have proven to be marginally effective at best to date. The financial capability to rebuild their facilities is less pertinent than the human capital and time necessary to do so. Just how many times will Iran build up their castle if we make it clear we'll knock it down and with successively greater force. My broader point stands however, Cenk is simply fear mongering and being intellectually lazy as usual. An invasion is not a inevitability, nor is a prolonged military campaign.
    To the bolded. Yes, it's to be expected. We have troops in their backyard, engaged in activity that's not in Iran's best interest.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well then there is how he left Libya....and what it has become today.

    He has failed in Foreign Policy in almost every way. Plus where is that trade treaty?
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    And, despite revelations such as National Security Agency spying on foreign leaders and the growing sense in the United States that President Obama is already a lame duck domestically, his continued (if somewhat diminished) favorability abroad suggests he remains a force to be reckoned with in international affairs.
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