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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    For one I hate Bill Clinton more than Bush.

    Two, Bush attacked Iraq for oil. Not any threat to the US.

    Three, Dick Cheney said years earlier, under GHWB that if we removed Saddam it would destabilize the ME. They knew this & did it anyway.

    It was about money, power, & oil. Not some made up threat.


    Well the goal of the Neo Cons.....I thought was to keep Iran surrounded.

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Where did Clinton ever threaten invasion?
    He didn't.....how many Demos voted to go into Iraq, was that again?

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That what Bush Jr had to deal with.....goes back to Clinton and his policies. Playing catch up after Democratic Control. Repubs one step forward two steps back. Demos one step back, then 3 more....then its fall down and everybody hit the floor.


    Clinton: Iraq has abused its last chance.....

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq. The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world. "Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said.

    "Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors," said Clinton. Clinton also stated that, while other countries also had weapons of mass destruction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons against his own people and against his neighbors.

    "In halting our airstrikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance -- not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed," the president explained......snip~

    CNN - Clinton: Iraq has abused its last chance - December 16, 1998
    Goes back much farther- Could start with replacing the Iranian PM in 53.
    Then replaced with the Shah.
    Or even further back with the way the ME was divided up after WW1.
    But the OP is launching a military strike.

    Let the sanctions stay if the deal fails and increase them.
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He didn't.....how many Demos voted to go into Iraq, was that again?
    And where did those Dems who voted for the war get their intel on Iraq from?
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He didn't.....how many Demos voted to go into Iraq, was that again?
    Remember, even Colin Powell was lied to:

    Ex-secretary of state Colin Powell called on the CIA and Pentagon to explain how he was given unreliable information which proved key to the US case for invading Iraq, the Guardian reported Wednesday.

    Powell’s landmark speech to the United Nations on February 5, 2003, cited intelligence about Iraq leader Saddam Hussein’s bioweapons programme gained from a defector, codenamed Curveball.

    But he has now admitted that he lied to topple the dictator, in an interview with the Guardian.

    “It has been known for several years that the source called Curveball was totally unreliable,” Powell told the British newspaper.

    The question should be put to the CIA and the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) as to why this wasn’t known before the false information was put into the (report) sent to Congress, the president’s state of the union address and my 5 February presentation to the UN.”
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Goes back much farther- Could start with replacing the Iranian PM in 53.
    Then replaced with the Shah.
    Or even further back with the way the ME was divided up after WW1.
    But the OP is launching a military strike.

    Let the sanctions stay if the deal fails and increase them.

    Looks like Iran is putting the ball back into BO's Court, again. Not only let the sanctions stay....but put back on those they took off. Iran had two of their people captured in Yemen advising the Zaydi Shia there. Caught in the act so to speak.


    The Iranians, meanwhile, are practically daring Obama to abandon his dangerous, ill-conceived legacy project. Perhaps in order to solidify support among domestic hardliners, and coupled with a confidence that the White House will never walk away, the regime is insisting that "research and development" concessions extracted from the West will permit them to start spinning advanced nuclear centrifuges on day one of any finalized accord:

    Iran will begin using its latest generation IR-8 centrifuges as soon as its nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect, Iran’s foreign minister and nuclear chief told members of parliament on Tuesday, according to Iran’s semi-official FARS news agency. If accurate, the report appears to make a mockery of the world powers’ much-hailed framework agreement with Iran, since such a move clearly breaches the US-published terms of the deal, and would dramatically accelerate Iran’s potential progress to the bomb. Iran has said that its IR-8 centrifuges enrich uranium 20 times faster than the IR-1 centrifuges it currently uses.....snip~

    Unraveling: Iran Blasts US 'Fact Sheet,' Takes Hard Line on Sanctions Relief, Inspections - Guy Benson


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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well the goal of the Neo Cons.....I thought was to keep Iran surrounded.
    Look up the permanent war time economy. This **** goes back to WW2. US sanctions & depleted uranium, from the first war killed close to a million innocence people in Iraq. Women & children, not just soldiers.

    Neo-Cons can be Dem's or Rep's. It depends on who is in the oil & arms dealers pockets. Hillary is one of them IMO

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks like Iran is putting the ball back into BO's Court, again. Not only let the sanctions stay....but put back on those they took off. Iran had two of their people captured in Yemen advising the Zaydi Shia there. Caught in the act so to speak.


    The Iranians, meanwhile, are practically daring Obama to abandon his dangerous, ill-conceived legacy project. Perhaps in order to solidify support among domestic hardliners, and coupled with a confidence that the White House will never walk away, the regime is insisting that "research and development" concessions extracted from the West will permit them to start spinning advanced nuclear centrifuges on day one of any finalized accord:

    Iran will begin using its latest generation IR-8 centrifuges as soon as its nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect, Iran’s foreign minister and nuclear chief told members of parliament on Tuesday, according to Iran’s semi-official FARS news agency. If accurate, the report appears to make a mockery of the world powers’ much-hailed framework agreement with Iran, since such a move clearly breaches the US-published terms of the deal, and would dramatically accelerate Iran’s potential progress to the bomb. Iran has said that its IR-8 centrifuges enrich uranium 20 times faster than the IR-1 centrifuges it currently uses.....snip~

    Unraveling: Iran Blasts US 'Fact Sheet,' Takes Hard Line on Sanctions Relief, Inspections - Guy Benson

    I did see this,,think they were Quds Force officers -but they were separate captures in Aden..
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    What is the point of this deal? Is it to retard Iranian nuke weapons,or is it an Obama legacy,
    or is it some delusion about getting Iran to play nice with it's neighbors?

    If those centrifuges can spin out enriched uranium, "20x faster" on day 1 or whatever, then this whole thing is a FARS farce
    (sorry about that "FARS farce"..lol I had to go there! )

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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Iran is Shia, Baghdad was Sunni when Saddam was in power, its mostly Shia now.
    President Reagan supported Saddam because he was the enemy of the enemy. Presdent Bush's invasion of iraq screwed that whole relationship and empowered Iran beef up their nuke program.

    How does Iran relate to 911?
    How does the bombing of the Cole relate to either Iraq or Iran and not OBL?
    What was the reason for destabling the ME by invading Iraq?
    BTW, how did those hostages get home?

    It seems you have a "reading comprehension problem" now.

    Shia, Sunni?

    What the **** is that even about?

    My point was specific to a post that made th absolutely absurd statement that "all US problems in the middle east began with George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq.

    I am simply pointing out the US has always had problems in the middle east and the lame misfits who can't read at all need to stop blaming George Bush for everything from Obama's problems with Canada to ice storms in the winter.



    I suppose soon you all will be saying the US never had a problem anywhere before George W. Bush as that appears to be one sick obsession
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    Re: Should the US launch a military strike on Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I agree I erred in "right" as I meant "left" but that's irrelevant to my point about authenticity. If you have some information on any mis-dealings on the part of the WP where they have misled, please indicate them, sneering at an award wining newspaper as "lefty" doesn't go anywhere.

    As I took pains to point ouot and what you ignored and who is being quoted. NGO's that appear to have no dog in the hunt re Washington's politics and repeat your reference does NOT even deal with civilian deaths.

    And I again raise the issue of who's been right and who's been wrong. The Pentagon or Doctor's Without Borders.

    You have convinced me only that you are extremely biased

    Let me give the Washington Compost some more of the derision is so richly deserves. Like almost every big-city newspaper in the U.S. these days, including the once-prestigious New York Times and my own once-well-regarded Los Angeles Times, it is a lefty piece of fish wrap.

    I don't know what the Pentagon has to do with anything I wrote, or what basis you have for claiming my reference "does NOT even deal with civilian deaths. The site I linked to has nothing to do with the Pentagon, and it gives estimates of civilian deaths in its charts. It says the following, right on the page I linked to:

    "The data is obtained from press reports from the Pakistani press (Daily Times, Dawn, Geo News, The News, and other outlets), as well as wire reports (AFP, Reuters, etc.), as well as reporting from The Long War Journal. Given the Taliban’s control of the areas where strikes occur, and a dearth of reporters in those areas, the exact numbers for casualties are difficult to know. The numbers below are estimates based on press reporting."

    Maybe Pakistani newspapers are also biased in favor of the U.S. government.

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