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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
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    how so?
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Maybe i should make a poll, "Should the religious mcdonald's clerk be permitted to refuse service to the gluttonous?"

    Oh right, the religious ignore all extremely common 'sins' except for homosexuality, i forgot

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    how so?
    They're not obligated to take on any advertising they don't want. They would, however, be discriminating if they refused to take gay passengers. If there's anything you should have learned from the past couple weeks it's that expressions are protected (I'm a little fuzzy on the terminology of that one, actually, but the gist of it is right). That's why I can't make you create a website for me that says "All Christians are the suckz."

    All that being said, I think the Muslims who refused to use the signs are petty dickheads, but dickheads who are within their rights nonetheless (assuming no pre-existing contractual agreements with the airport, of course, which from the story there don't appear to be).

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    They're not obligated to take on any advertising they don't want. They would, however, be discriminating if they refused to take gay passengers. If there's anything you should have learned from the past couple weeks it's that expressions are protected (I'm a little fuzzy on the terminology of that one, actually, but the gist of it is right). That's why I can't make you create a website for me that says "All Christians are the suckz."

    All that being said, I think the Muslims who refused to use the signs are petty dickheads, but dickheads who are within their rights nonetheless (assuming no pre-existing contractual agreements with the airport, of course, which from the story there don't appear to be).

    the pizza shop said they would not refuse service for anyone but would not want to take part by catering to a gay wedding, how is that different?



    And no thread link yet? Me thinks you are simply strining me along.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    the pizza shop said they would not refuse service for anyone but would not want to take part by catering to a gay wedding, how is that different?



    And no thread link yet? Me thinks you are simply strining me along.
    What, are you on a deadline or something? I'm working. I can slam out these short posts but research takes more concentration. In fact, I shouldn't even be on DP at all right now as I'm on a deadline.

    If catering to weddings was a regular service the pizzeria offered then they would need to offer that same service to everyone.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    the pizza shop said they would not refuse service for anyone but would not want to take part by catering to a gay wedding, how is that different?



    And no thread link yet? Me thinks you are simply strining me along.
    They said they would not provide pizzas for a gay wedding. Which means if someone came up to the counter saying "I need 10 pizzas today, my son is getting married and the caterer his husband hired cancelled last minute", the pizzeria would refuse to sell them those pizzas just because they were going for a same sex wedding. They wouldn't even have to come to the wedding, but this is the scenario the girl said she would refuse.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They said they would not provide pizzas for a gay wedding. Which means if someone came up to the counter saying "I need 10 pizzas today, my son is getting married and the caterer his husband hired cancelled last minute", the pizzeria would refuse to sell them those pizzas just because they were going for a same sex wedding. They wouldn't even have to come to the wedding, but this is the scenario the girl said she would refuse.
    If the reporter asked her if she would refuse to cater a straight wedding the only factual answer should could provide is yes since she doesn't cater weddings.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    No, not refuse service to gay people. But they should be able to refuse services for gay weddings or other events that violate their beliefs.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?
    Legally? I guess it depends on the state. However, since they have been shown to refuse to do so, have they been given a pass, I would suppose because of their religion? Most certainly yes.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    The question is poorly worded. No public business should be able to discriminate against anyone. Should they be forced to produce pro or anti Jew, gay, black or catholic products, no. Should they sell their normal offerings to everyone, yes.
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