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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What is an SSM cake? Does it have special ingredients? And what if Dave and Tim are the best friends of another guy who is marrying his girlfriend, would the photographer have issues taking pictured of them then? Did you even think before posting this tripe?
    The funny thing is that the husband in the wedding photography case claimed that they would refuse to take pictures of two people of the same sex kissing or holding hands if it might be taken as intimate. But the wife was the photographer (from what I read) and didn't really seem to agree with this statement.

    I don't know if she had taken pictures like this, but I am wondering, since many women (especially) will get pretty intimate at events like weddings with their female friends, bridesmaids, sisters, and other, including giving kisses and holding hands. I've had someone ask me before if my sister and I were lesbians in a bar because we are very affectionate, even in public (although I'm not really comfortable kissing any of my relatives on the mouth, getting used to it with my sons though), just due to that level of affection we have shown and how people can misinterpret that. Some men and women are simply affectionate people, and it is quite likely that they have photographed at least one opposite sex wedding where such displays of platonic affection for people of the same sex were going on and photographed even.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I've been told time and time again that most Gays are just like me. How would the business owner know if they din't say so?
    Most bakers want to meet the people getting married. And most couples want to get a chance to decide on the cake together. It would be pretty obvious for two men to walk into a baker together and start discussing the cake with each other that they were the party getting married. Unless you are saying they should lie or go out of their way to hide the fact that they are a same sex couple getting married.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Show me where the Homosexual lobby has come out against the Muslim business practices/discrimination?
    Well that dodge and move of the goalposts were predictable.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?
    No. Should a homosexual owned business be legally permitted to refuse service to Muslims?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No. Should a homosexual owned business be legally permitted to refuse service to Muslims?
    You should start a poll!

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?
    Not by one stitch. Discrimination in public business is a violation - full stop.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well that dodge and move of the goalposts were predictable.
    As far as legalities, that was my question.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    You ask the wrong question...

    The right question is would all the liberal PC warriors go after a muslim business the way they went after a christian one for not wanting to cater a gay event?


    It's rhetorical.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Some of you need to read all the posts before posting your tripe.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

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    I can't answer the poll question as asked which is to narrow and can be interpreted in skewed ways.


    Therefore...

    As applied to privately owned businesses public accommodation laws should be repealed (not just an exception for Muslims), as applied to government entities "no" - they should remain in place with a couple of caveats :

    1. Private entities classified as public carriers (communications utilities) and common carrier (transportation utilities).

    2. Medical and paraprofessional medical personnel involved with health care which may be of a life saving or critical nature (emergency room, paramedics, specialists involved in treatment, etc.). Those providing purely elective procedures (elective cosmetic surgery, fertility clinics, etc.) would still be able to be exempt.

    3. Government entities (local, state, and federal) would have restrictions in place to not contract with or purchase goods and services from private entities which operate on a discriminatory business model.


    In general, the widespread issues from 60 years ago have been resolved by fundamental shifts in society. Sure there will be isolated instances, that's the price of liberty and dealing with your own issues. A burger joint says - I won't serve a black? OK, walk across the street to Applebee's. A photographer doesn't want to shoot a same-sex wedding? OK, Google or Angie's List another photographer in the area. Will there be some isolated cases (to contrast with the widespread discrimination from many years ago.


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