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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?
    Why shouldn’t they? I mean, to be fair the Christian businesses we are talking about weren’t hanging up “No Gays Allowed!” signs. Anyone could come into the stores and buy any product that is nominally for sale. What they restricted was specialty items, such as wedding cakes. Certain bakeries didn’t make cakes for same sex weddings, just wasn’t a product they offered. I think they were well within their rights to do so as well, it’s their business, their labor, their cake. And here would be the same, the fundamental isn’t shifting. Labor and property rights form the foundation and those are innate rights to all humans, even Muslims.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Why would a Muslim business be held to a different standard than a Christian one? I don't understand the point of this poll.

    To answer the poll directly: No, Muslims should not have legal protection to refuse service to gays.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I just remembered something: X factor doesn't understand the difference between denying service to customers because of what they ordered and denying them service on the basis of their sexual orientation. So this may actually be his idea of a trap thread, though as in the other thread he'll just be reaffirming his inability to grasp the issue.

    Nonetheless, in spite of any potential shennanigans I voted in good faith.
    I think he's confused about what these anti discrimination laws permit. Frankly i find it a little confusing when we start narrowing it down to cake toppings or whatever.

    X doesn't want service denied to gays, but he has a legit suspicion here. Some of the politically correct will never criticize the prejudices of a minority and will not want to take sides in disputes between two separate minorities. Some right wingers will be aghast at the thought of having to sell milk to gays, but they aren't necessarily fond of Muslims either

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So what will you conclude when you don't see the hypocrisy you're so certain will manifest here?
    Show me where the Homosexual lobby has come out against the Muslim business practices/discrimination?
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why shouldn’t they? I mean, to be fair the Christian businesses we are talking about weren’t hanging up “No Gays Allowed!” signs. Anyone could come into the stores and buy any product that is nominally for sale. What they restricted was specialty items, such as wedding cakes. Certain bakeries didn’t make cakes for same sex weddings, just wasn’t a product they offered. I think they were well within their rights to do so as well, it’s their business, their labor, their cake. And here would be the same, the fundamental isn’t shifting. Labor and property rights form the foundation and those are innate rights to all humans, even Muslims.
    I've been told time and time again that most Gays are just like me. How would the business owner know if they din't say so?
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?
    Why would the religion of the owner matter? Every time some one(and it has been a bunch the last week, every one thinks it is oh so clever to do this) makes a thread going "OMG, but what if it is Muslims", I ask that question, and no one can answer it.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    I say lets just decide whether or not we want to do business with someone based on behavior. It doesn't even need to be in business, just life in general. So if you behead somebody, I don't care if you are Muslim or not, you need to be ended for the good of society. If you walk in to a business and bait then with a question about a wedding cake for a gay couple with the intent of creating a news story, the owner of the business should kick your sorry ass out of their place of business. Not because you are gay (don't know if the reporter asking the hypothetical question of the pizzaria owners was or not, doesn't really matter) but because you are a childish asshole who intends harm to the business owner. I had a Vietnam veteran who expected me to diagnose his car for free. Didn't happen. Gotcha game liberals would likely then claim that I "hate" veterans, not true at all. I just refuse to work for free considering I have overhead to cover.

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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I've been told time and time again that most Gays are just like me. How would the business owner know if they din't say so?
    Well 2 guys walk in and state we are getting married and need a cake for our wedding.
    Now a side topic.
    Muslim taxi drivers were refusing to carry passengers who had alcohol in their possession.(that was in the US)
    Another case up north- Male barbers - only cut men's hair due to religious beliefs- women walked in asked for a hair cut - refused service.They offered to have a woman cut ther hair, even pay for the cost. She then refused.
    So their is more to this than a cake. or photos or a wedding planner.
    Why is it that gays are the popular target- topic when other instances have arisen?
    It is a cultural clash of various religious beliefs and human rights.
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If Homosexuals aren't ordering a SSM cake or wanting you to take photos of Dave and Jim, the owner might never know you're Gay.
    What is an SSM cake? Does it have special ingredients? And what if Dave and Tim are the best friends of another guy who is marrying his girlfriend, would the photographer have issues taking pictured of them then? Did you even think before posting this tripe?
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    Re: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay Peop

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If Homosexuals aren't ordering a SSM cake or wanting you to take photos of Dave and Jim, the owner might never know you're Gay.
    They aren't ordering a "SSM cake", just a "wedding cake" of the same kind that opposite sex couples order.
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