Thread: Should a Muslim Owned Business Be Legally Permitted to Refuse Service to Gay [W:150]

Originally Posted by X Factor

Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?

Why shouldn’t they? I mean, to be fair the Christian businesses we are talking about weren’t hanging up “No Gays Allowed!” signs. Anyone could come into the stores and buy any product that is nominally for sale. What they restricted was specialty items, such as wedding cakes. Certain bakeries didn’t make cakes for same sex weddings, just wasn’t a product they offered. I think they were well within their rights to do so as well, it’s their business, their labor, their cake. And here would be the same, the fundamental isn’t shifting. Labor and property rights form the foundation and those are innate rights to all humans, even Muslims.

Originally Posted by Cardinal

So what will you conclude when you don't see the hypocrisy you're so certain will manifest here?

Show me where the Homosexual lobby has come out against the Muslim business practices/discrimination?

Originally Posted by Ikari

Why shouldn’t they? I mean, to be fair the Christian businesses we are talking about weren’t hanging up “No Gays Allowed!” signs. Anyone could come into the stores and buy any product that is nominally for sale. What they restricted was specialty items, such as wedding cakes. Certain bakeries didn’t make cakes for same sex weddings, just wasn’t a product they offered. I think they were well within their rights to do so as well, it’s their business, their labor, their cake. And here would be the same, the fundamental isn’t shifting. Labor and property rights form the foundation and those are innate rights to all humans, even Muslims.

I've been told time and time again that most Gays are just like me. How would the business owner know if they din't say so?

Originally Posted by X Factor

Self explanatory. This is a consistency check for all sides. Does changing up the religion itself change anything?

Why would the religion of the owner matter? Every time some one(and it has been a bunch the last week, every one thinks it is oh so clever to do this) makes a thread going "OMG, but what if it is Muslims", I ask that question, and no one can answer it.

Originally Posted by WCH

I've been told time and time again that most Gays are just like me. How would the business owner know if they din't say so?

Well 2 guys walk in and state we are getting married and need a cake for our wedding.
Now a side topic.
Muslim taxi drivers were refusing to carry passengers who had alcohol in their possession.(that was in the US)
Another case up north- Male barbers - only cut men's hair due to religious beliefs- women walked in asked for a hair cut - refused service.They offered to have a woman cut ther hair, even pay for the cost. She then refused.
So their is more to this than a cake. or photos or a wedding planner.
Why is it that gays are the popular target- topic when other instances have arisen?
It is a cultural clash of various religious beliefs and human rights.

Originally Posted by WCH

If Homosexuals aren't ordering a SSM cake or wanting you to take photos of Dave and Jim, the owner might never know you're Gay.

What is an SSM cake? Does it have special ingredients? And what if Dave and Tim are the best friends of another guy who is marrying his girlfriend, would the photographer have issues taking pictured of them then? Did you even think before posting this tripe?

Originally Posted by WCH

If Homosexuals aren't ordering a SSM cake or wanting you to take photos of Dave and Jim, the owner might never know you're Gay.

They aren't ordering a "SSM cake", just a "wedding cake" of the same kind that opposite sex couples order.