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If your son asked you to buy him a Barbie doll, would you?

If your son asked you to buy him a Barbie doll, would you?

  • Yes I would. I am not a parent however.

    Votes: 10 22.7%

  • Yes I would. I am a parent.

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • No I would not. I am not a parent however.

    Votes: 8 18.2%

  • No I would not. I am a parent.

    Votes: 11 25.0%
  • Total voters
    44
 
Smeagol said:
If your son asked you to buy him a Barbie doll, would you?
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If I had a son I would never buy him a Barbie doll just as I have never bought any of my nephews a barbie doll.If I had a son and he asked me to buy him a Barbie doll I would explain to him that those are toys for girls and he is not a girl.
 
Henrin said:
Well it's my money, so I get to decide what is done with it.
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Did you stomp your foot and hold your breath while typing that?
 
soot said:
Did you stomp your foot and hold your breath while typing that?
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No, but I imagine you did when reading it. Tell me, how is not buying a kid a toy oppressive?
 
kjwins said:
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If we are being honest, we as a society have done a lousy job with teaching healthy roles and models. Young boys are taught from the earliest of ages to shut up, stop crying, grow up, be a man. Little girls have the stuffing loved out of them for minor infractions. Boys are expected to stifle feelings and emotions. When a teenage girl has her heart broken, her friends rally around her, shed tears of support and love with her, and then go get their nails done in a show of sisterhood. If a 13 year old boy has his heart broken and sheds a few many tears, his friends call him a fag and tell him to man up. We tend to learn our lessons well, but that makes it really hard to connect. Men arent from Mars and women arent from Venus. Hell...those two planets are at least in the same solar system.

Somewhere in between teaching young men to stop crying or we'll give them something to cry about and turning them into pansies with asthma, peanut allergies, gluten allergies, dairy intolerance and running around wearing skinny jeans covered in face piercings attending My Little Pony conventions there is a middle ground. Its appropriate to teach young men healthy male roles. Hell...its even appropriate to teach young men that are gay appropriate male models. If either of my sons announced that they were gay I would want them to be just who they are...only gay. Be strong, be confident, be naly, and be gay...whatever. Just dont be...this...

 
chromium said:
how could a doll contribute to psychopathy?

unless the kid keeps cutting her head off...
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I along with a bunch of friends would blow up our Transformers with M-80's, and I didn't find myself on a sudden and uncomfortable trip to the shrink.
 
Cardinal said:
I along with a bunch of friends would blow up our Transformers with M-80's, and I didn't find myself on a sudden and uncomfortable trip to the shrink.
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Ok, if he wanted to blow up barbies with M-80's I might allow it.
 
BrewerBob said:
My five year old son has a pink My Little Pony comforter on his bed because I let him pick out his own. My 9 year old picked an Iron Man one. My wife started to try and talk him out of getting the pony one but I stopped her. I said, "I told him he could get which one he wanted". He has never even watched the cartoon but he liked the horses. It bothered me a little bit but that is my hangup and chose not to act on it.

On a related note when it was my 4 year old niece's birthday I went to the store to buy her one of those leapfrog toy laptops. They had a green one and a pink one. I just couldn't bring myself to buy her the pink one. So I got her the green one.
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I'm 22 year old outdoor sport gun toting straight man and I am not ashamed to proclaim that I watch my little pony
 
Smeagol said:
If your son asked you to buy him a Barbie doll, would you?
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Probably not.

I also wouldn't let him wear a princess dress, and I'd tell him why.


Now if he wanted to learn to cook, that's fine. However stuff that is more clearly cross-gendered, I'd try to discourage that.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I'm 22 year old outdoor sport gun toting straight man and I am not ashamed to proclaim that I watch my little pony
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See this is what happens when fathers are absent and not looking out for the *proper* masculine development of their sons. You should be watching dudes wrestle in their underwear instead

Ohhh, is your Rainbow Dash your favorite too?
 
No son of mine would deem it necessary to question the value of his gender. However subtly woven about him was the tapestry of feminisation, I'm afraid that's one battle the bots would be doomed to lose. :)
 
VanceMack said:
If we are being honest, we as a society have done a lousy job with teaching healthy roles and models. Young boys are taught from the earliest of ages to shut up, stop crying, grow up, be a man. Little girls have the stuffing loved out of them for minor infractions. Boys are expected to stifle feelings and emotions. When a teenage girl has her heart broken, her friends rally around her, shed tears of support and love with her, and then go get their nails done in a show of sisterhood. If a 13 year old boy has his heart broken and sheds a few many tears, his friends call him a fag and tell him to man up. We tend to learn our lessons well, but that makes it really hard to connect. Men arent from Mars and women arent from Venus. Hell...those two planets are at least in the same solar system.

Somewhere in between teaching young men to stop crying or we'll give them something to cry about and turning them into pansies with asthma, peanut allergies, gluten allergies, dairy intolerance and running around wearing skinny jeans covered in face piercings attending My Little Pony conventions there is a middle ground. Its appropriate to teach young men healthy male roles. Hell...its even appropriate to teach young men that are gay appropriate male models. If either of my sons announced that they were gay I would want them to be just who they are...only gay. Be strong, be confident, be naly, and be gay...whatever. Just dont be...this...

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Well said my friend.
 
I have 3 teenagers, and they didn't want Barbies when they were young. Dinosaurs, Spiderman, sports stuff, bugs....but if they expressed an interest in the Barbie, sure, why not?
 
nota bene said:
If your daughter wanted a GI Joe, would you buy it for her?
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Oh but it's OK to buy "boy toys" for girls. They are just tomboys. But buy a "girl toy" for a boy, and all of a sudden, it's a big deal. /sarcasm

I heard that at one time there was a movement to offer Easy Bake Ovens in gender neutral colors, and the same for the little sewing machines. I don't know if that came to fruition, because my girls are too old for that stuff.
 
My sister's 2-year old son has a bitchin' red kitchen. And thanks to me, he has every kind of fake food you can imagine plus frying pans and pots.
 
Henrin said:
I can't speak for anyone else but I wouldn't.
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I did. I still have "Duke," as a matter of fact. His voice is gone now, but that's a blessing.
 
nota bene said:
My sister's 2-year old son has a bitchin' red kitchen. And thanks to me, he has every kind of fake food you can imagine plus frying pans and pots.
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He'll probably turn into a fantastic chef, and will have you to thank for it! :D
 
nota bene said:
If your daughter wanted a GI Joe, would you buy it for her?
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Yes. Women choose military careers also.



Superfly said:
Oh but it's OK to buy "boy toys" for girls. They are just tomboys. But buy a "girl toy" for a boy, and all of a sudden, it's a big deal. /sarcasm
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Exactly. :D

I heard that at one time there was a movement to offer Easy Bake Ovens in gender neutral colors, and the same for the little sewing machines. I don't know if that came to fruition, because my girls are too old for that stuff.
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Truth is I wanted one of those when I was a little kid, because I was interested in cooking and especially liked fresh baked cookies. :D I never asked though, because it was portrayed as a girl-toy. But hey, cooking is for anyone who likes EATING, amirite? :D


I DID eventually learn to cook, and today I am pretty darn good at it. Got my Mom to teach me, since Dad barely knew how to make a sammich. Division of labor back in the old days.


But a Barbie doll is another thing. I mean what do you do with a Barbie? Play dress up in fancy clothes and stuff, as far as I ever saw. Not really something I'd particularly want my male child focusing on.
 
Superfly said:
He'll probably turn into a fantastic chef, and will have you to thank for it! :D
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His daddy is. First person I ever met who served lobster at a campsite.
 
Superfly said:
Oh but it's OK to buy "boy toys" for girls. They are just tomboys. But buy a "girl toy" for a boy, and all of a sudden, it's a big deal. /sarcasm

I heard that at one time there was a movement to offer Easy Bake Ovens in gender neutral colors, and the same for the little sewing machines. I don't know if that came to fruition, because my girls are too old for that stuff.
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I don't generally find tomboys attractive. That's just me though.
 
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