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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As long as they are sponsoring terrorism or providing a safe haven for terrorist the answer is no.

    Cuba still provides sanctuary for wanted terrorists

    The most difficult obstacle to overcome is the sanctuary Cuba continues to offer those deemed terrorists by the U.S. government.

    They include members of a violent Spanish separatist movement, the Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA), which the State Department estimates has killed more than 800 people since the 1960s.

    Cuba has also provided safe haven to members of the Colombian guerrilla army known as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which has been waging a civil war with the Colombian government since the 1960s.

    In addition, Cuba is providing refuge for dozens of U.S. fugitives, including one of the FBI's most wanted terrorists — Joanne Chesimard, a member of the Black Liberation Army. She shot and killed a New Jersey State Police trooper execution-style in 1973. She received a life sentence but escaped prison and made her way to Cuba.

    "It is essential to recognize that the Castro regime has a long track record of providing sanctuary to terrorists and harboring U.S. fugitives who have murdered American citizens, while undermining national security," Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., wrote in a Feb. 26 letter to Secretary of State John Kerry. "Before Cuba is removed from (the list), the Castro regime must be held to account for these acts and American fugitives must be brought back to face justice in the U.S."
    I'm not worried about it. The fly in the ointment is your comment "those deemed terrorists by the US" that's so often just political. Today's "terrorist" is tomorrow's CIA asset and vise versa.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Have they funded or supported or committed terrorism in the recent past(say 25 years)? I honestly do not know, but that would I think be what should determine the answer. If a country has done those things, then yes, they belong on the list, if not, then no.
    It depends, our government is not above creating strawmen. Cuba is a very political situation. USFP with regards to Cuba could help make that island country shine.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not worried about it. The fly in the ointment is your comment "those deemed terrorists by the US" that's so often just political. Today's "terrorist" is tomorrow's CIA asset and vise versa.
    So the terrorists described in the article are not terrorists? They are just wonderful misunderstood people whose policies the US does not like?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    yes. take them off the list.

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So the terrorists described in the article are not terrorists? They are just wonderful misunderstood people whose policies the US does not like?
    I'm saying that many countries, including the US, use terrorism, and they're not all on terrorist lists.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm saying that many countries, including the US, use terrorism, and they're not all on terrorist lists.
    No you were not.You were basically stating that those people were falsely accused of being terrorists by the US with your statement "those deemed terrorists by the US" as some sort of justification for removing Cuba off the terrorist list.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No you were not.You were basically stating that those people were falsely accused of being terrorists by the US with your statement "those deemed terrorists by the US" as some sort of justification for removing Cuba off the terrorist list.
    Again, I was quoting you. Just because the US "deems" somebody a terrorist, or a nation, a sponsor of terrorists, doesn't make it so. And that finger pointing has three back at us.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    I think full diplomatic recognition is going to happen quickly, as it should

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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    It seems that Cuba is harboring an American cop killer who should be returned to New Jersey to stand trial. Cuba also harbors Spanish separatist/terrorists and affords them citizenship, individuals who have murdered innocent Spaniards over the years. As well as Columbian terrorists/FARC

    Cuba was involved in terrorist activities in Africa and South America previously, however, it appears those activities have ceased.

    There is a lot to dislike about Cuba, it's current regime, it's treatment of its own people, and it's involvement with some rogue nations of the world, but they do not appear to be on the level of Iran.

    Cuba, however, should be made to seek entry into the league of responsible, contributing world states through actions on their part, even simple goodwill gestures, for they really offer nothing to the world and would benefit greatly from US sanctions being lifted and normalization with America.
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    Re: Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

    Do they still sponsor terrorism? If yes, then no. Are they still a Marxist-Lenonist-Stalinist socialist/communist dictatorship? Then no.
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