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Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

Should transwomen be legally trreated as women?


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Well, what do you think?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

No brainier, absolutely.

The same goes for transmen; they should be treated as men.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

No, they are men.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Sure. It is no skin off my nose.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin, you never cease to amaze me with your bigotry.

Facts are not bigotry.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Well, what do you think?



In what sense? In theory, men and women are supposed to be equal under the law.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Yes. They should be paid $.70 on the dollar.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Legally treated as women? You mean allowing them to fill out "F" on legal forms instead of "M"? Sounds okay to me.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

What could it possibly matter to anyone else? What does legally treated as a woman even mean?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

What could it possibly matter to anyone else? What does legally treated as a woman even mean?

They get to be seen as women by the law. It's basically the government lying for them.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

No they should not be legally treated as women.They are not women.Dressing up as something you are not does not make you what ever it is you are dressing up as.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

No they should not be legally treated as women.They are not women.Dressing up as something you are not does not make you what ever it is you are dressing up as.
This raises the question: what objective measure defines gender?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

I wonder.


Could I decide to self-define as a trans-woman trans-african-american in order to apply for (say) college aid or federal jobs, but not have to get the surgery / makeup?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Well, what do you think?

Only AFTER the sex change operation. Before then no. Too many chances and too easy to fake it for nefarious purposes. Yeah, its not fair to transgenders. It sucks having to worry about perverts (pedophilia by those that will no doubt fake it now that transgenderism is becoming more and more accepted) at the expense of transgenders. Well, more than sucks. :/

And yes, I know that not everyone can afford a sex change operation. That is why I would support government help in getting that operation for free.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

This raises the question: what objective measure defines gender?

If you define gender as someone that takes hormones and got surgery then you're defining it in a stupid way.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

In what sense? In theory, men and women are supposed to be equal under the law.

Well in legal instances where we differentiate, e.g. being able to legally marry a man, etc.
 
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Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Only AFTER the sex change operation. Before then no. Too many chances and too easy to fake it for nefarious purposes. Yeah, its not fair to transgenders. It sucks having to worry about perverts (pedophilia by those that will no doubt fake it now that transgenderism is becoming more and more accepted) at the expense of transgenders. Well, more than sucks. :/

And yes, I know that not everyone can afford a sex change operation. That is why I would support government help in getting that operation for free.

Actually they do that in Iran. Over here it would be expensive.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Well in legal instances were we differentiate, e.g. being able to legally marry a man, etc.



Ok. Well I'm ok with that I suppose.... except I'd include a caveat that they must reveal their gender reassignment prior to intimacy with anyone. It's the honest and forthright thing to do.
 
Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

This raises the question: what objective measure defines gender?

All the madness and lies notwithstanding, it's a matter of simple mammalian biology.

One who has XY chromosomes and was born with “boy parts” is male.

One who has XX chromosomes and was born with “girl parts” is female.

“Transgenderism” is nothing more than insanity backed up by Political Correctness.
 
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Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Well, what do you think?

Of course. If they identify as women, they should be treated as women. Not like women get any special benefits; would be more profitable for women to pose as men if anyone was at all likely to fake it.

Not everyone can afford the surgery.

But I assume this is a bait thread and the usual players (including me, sigh) will show up and no one's mind or heart will be changed.
 
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