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Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

Should transwomen be legally trreated as women?

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Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
I'll just leave this here...

Doctors successfully implant lab-grown vaginas into 4 women | Fox News

It'll happen and then the medical treatment for transsexuality will be complete.
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Except if you are using that treatment the cells for the vagina will have to come from a woman. Furthermore, that treatment was done for women with birth defects and unlike what you are advising here did actually act upon the problem area.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Odd what is called "success". Should start calling it Planet of Dr. Moreau.
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It's weird how people actually think making men into women is actually treating transgenderism. It should be obvious to everyone that all it is doing is making the problem worse.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
Its interesting you think you can tell someone what sex they are, when you can't tell.

I really do attribute your negative attitude to not knowing anyone personally that is transsexual.
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Sigh. Your argument amounts to telling people the money that you counterfeited is not counterfeit because they couldn't tell when they spent it.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
There is no confusion. :)
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You still haven't shown where I said that they are lying... your confusion over that translates to your confusion ove rthe issue in general. ;)
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Odd what is called "success". Should start calling it Planet of Dr. Moreau.
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:lol: Great reference...
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin said:
It's weird how people actually think making men into women is actually treating transgenderism. It should be obvious to everyone that all it is doing is making the problem worse. even possible, or is what is being accomplished by these perverse, unethical mutilations.
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Fixed it for you.
 
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Sounds a lot like some of the personal bias that was going on during the Civil Rights movement, in addition to the most recent SSM arguments.

I'm sorry, but these negative opinions are on the wrong side of history, again.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

phattonez said:
If doctors can implant hooves into me, will the medical treatment for trans-speciation be complete?
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In exactly the same way that a horse can consent to sex sure ;)
/sarcasm
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
In exactly the same way that a horse can consent to sex sure ;)
/sarcasm
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This has nothing to do with sex. If I get hooves implanted, can I legally be called a horse?
 
MildSteel said:
Well, what do you think?
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Sure, I have no problem with it. It's her life. Do I actually consider her to be a woman? Not at all, but I'm more than happy to refer to her as such if that's her choice. Whatever.
 
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phattonez said:
This has nothing to do with sex. If I get hooves implanted, can I legally be called a horse?
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Can this woman legally be called a cat? jocelyn-wildenstein.jpg
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin said:
It's weird how people actually think making men into women is actually treating transgenderism. It should be obvious to everyone that all it is doing is making the problem worse.
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That which is "obvious" is not always true. For a long time it was obvious that the sun circled the earth. Of course, falsely defining the problem is also a hindrance. The problem is not that the mind/self is wrong. The problem is not that the body is wrong. The problem is that they are mismatched. Currently, the better solution is to alter the body to match the self. Do you have any links to therapy to alter the self to match the body that isn't akin to homosexuality conversion therapy?
 
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phattonez said:
This has nothing to do with sex. If I get hooves implanted, can I legally be called a horse?
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The analogy went over your head a little bit apparently even with the sarcasm. Sorry about that.
 
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Fletch said:
Can this woman legally be called a cat?View attachment 67184265
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Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

maquiscat said:
That which is "obvious" is not always true. For a long time it was obvious that the sun circled the earth. Of course, falsely defining the problem is also a hindrance. The problem is not that the mind/self is wrong. The problem is not that the body is wrong. The problem is that they are mismatched. Currently, the better solution is to alter the body to match the self. Do you have any links to therapy to alter the self to match the body that isn't akin to homosexuality conversion therapy?
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We don't know the source of the problem, but we do know there is nothing wrong with the body parts that are being act on in most cases. If it really is genetic like some in this thread has suggested then I'm hopeful for a real solution in the future.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

maquiscat said:
Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
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But if someone gets legally seen as a cat then someone can legally own them. D:
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

maquiscat said:
Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
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But is she a cat because she thinks shes a cat and got surgery to resemble a cat? Or is she just a woman who had surgery to pretend she is something she is not?
By the same token, is a man a woman because he thinks hes a woman and got surgery to resemble a woman? Or is he just a man who had surgery to pretend he is something he is not?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin said:
But if someone gets legally seen as a cat then someone can legally own them. D:
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Yep. This world is built on lots of legal fictions. So sure, let them be owned and even put down if the owner decides to.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin said:
We don't know the source of the problem, but we do know there is nothing wrong with the body parts that are being act on in most cases. If it really is genetic like some in this thread has suggested then I'm hopeful for a real solution in the future.
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Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
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Oh for god sakes. :roll: If it wasn't a problem then surgery and hormone treatment wouldn't be seen as a treatment. Green eyes doesn't need treated and no one sees it as a problem. Well, other than those that want blue eyes or something, but that is more of a preference thing.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Nicci said:
Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
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Sorry Nicci, I'm going have to call you on this one. First off green eyes has never been a problem. I am unaware of anyone who has green eyes feeling as if they were a blue eyed person trapped in a green eyed body. Additionally, being transgendered is in and of it self a problem. I.e. the person's self does not match the body. If it wasn't a problem, then they would not have the disphoria. The issue isn't the existence of the problem, but what is a proper and ethical solution to the problem.
 
Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

Henrin said:
Oh for god sakes. :roll: If it wasn't a problem then surgery and hormone treatment wouldn't be seen as a treatment. Green eyes doesn't need treated and no one sees it as a problem. Well, other than those that want blue eyes or something, but that is more of a preference thing.
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maquiscat said:
Sorry Nicci, I'm going have to call you on this one. First off green eyes has never been a problem. I am unaware of anyone who has green eyes feeling as if they were a blue eyed person trapped in a green eyed body. Additionally, being transgendered is in and of it self a problem. I.e. the person's self does not match the body. If it wasn't a problem, then they would not have the disphoria. The issue isn't the existence of the problem, but what is a proper and ethical solution to the problem.
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Sorry, I'm simply stating it is as natural as green eyes vs brown. There was a time when people thought other humans with light colored eyes could be easily induced or had spells cast on them to make them evil. Meanwhile those with darker colours were not as easy to entice.

Yes, its a biological problem but as our technology increases so does our ability to fix the medical issue.
 
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