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Who? Democrats or Republicans perceived as "Smarter"?

Who? Democrats or Republicans perceived as "Smarter"?

  • Republicans are viewed as Smarter

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Democrats are viewed as Smarter

    Votes: 17 85.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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From Science Daily

Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds
Date:
February 24, 2010
Source:
American Sociological Association
Summary:
Higher intelligence is associated with liberal political ideology, atheism, and men's (but not women's) preference for sexual exclusivity. More intelligent people are statistically more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to human evolution. Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.

Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds -- ScienceDaily
 
All these "scientific links" and the question still hasn't been answered. The question is about perception, not actuality and quite frankly, both are irrelevant. Both perceive themselves as smarter. Their supporters--basically morons. The hacks, loud morons.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
All these "scientific links" and the question still hasn't been answered. The question is about perception, not actuality and quite frankly, both are irrelevant. Both perceive themselves as smarter. Their supporters--basically morons. The hacks, loud morons.
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But the findings are scientific, not perceptual.

Last year, a study done at Brock University suggested that a lower I.Q. goes hand in hand with both racism and conservative beliefs. The findings are published in Psychological Science and the study is entitled “Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes: Lower Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact.”
 
Montecresto said:
But the findings are scientific, not perceptual.

Last year, a study done at Brock University suggested that a lower I.Q. goes hand in hand with both racism and conservative beliefs. The findings are published in Psychological Science and the study is entitled “Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes: Lower Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact.”
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Then make a poll asking the question you want to answer, that isn't this one: "Who? Democrats or Republicans perceived as "Smarter"?"

Oh, and your science is as bunk as those who peddle the "science" that some races have higher IQ than others.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Then make a poll asking the question you want to answer, that isn't this one: "Who? Democrats or Republicans perceived as "Smarter"?"

Oh, and your science is as bunk as those who peddle the "science" that some races have higher IQ than others.
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Lol, it's not my science. I guess you thought it was my study. Also, you either haven't read the studies, or you're just a conservative mischaracterising it for the obvious reasons.
 
Montecresto said:
From Science Daily

Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds
Date:
February 24, 2010
Source:
American Sociological Association
Summary:
Higher intelligence is associated with liberal political ideology, atheism, and men's (but not women's) preference for sexual exclusivity. More intelligent people are statistically more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to human evolution. Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.

Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds -- ScienceDaily
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As I stated before, I think you're reading a bit too much into this.

Even assuming that the study's findings are necessarily correct (which is hardly a given), the fact that Atheism and Leftism happen to attract intelligent people wouldn't necessarily make them intrinsic qualities of intelligence in and of themselves. It would largely be a function of culture, more than anything else.

As the article states, intelligent people tend to be attracted to "novel" ideas. In today's society, it simply happens to be the case that, largely due to the persistent and conscious social branding the sociopolitial Left has been engaged in for the last several decades - particularly in media - such novelty tends to be strongly associated with Left Wing worldviews, and cultural secularism. These ideas are widely regarded as being "trendy," and as hall marks of the "high class" intelligentsia, where Conservatism is viewed as being more "rustic," "passe," and "common."

In past cultures, where religious and socially conservative views were highly valued (the Middle Ages, for example), the opposite would have been the case, with highly intelligent individuals flocking to positions centered around those ideas (the clergy, for example).

Frankly, in certain subcultures, that is still the case. Modern Catholic Priests tend to be highly intelligent people. Likewise, the Defense Industry and Finance Sector are well known for attracting unusually intelligent people as well (the average IQ for Delta Force Operator is supposedly over 130). All of them are known for being rather Conservative (or at the very least, Right-leaning) in comparison to the population average.

Sooo... Again, the issue really isn't as simple as you are making out here. It largely depends on where you look.
 
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jbander said:
Who? Democrats or Republicans perceived as "Smarter"?

I don't know about perception but the truth is Democrats are considerably smarter. It doesn't take a rocket science to look at the education systems and the intelligence of the states that are Regressive power houses and compare them to the states that are Democratic , to answer that question. I believe that regressive gear their party rhetoric to that lower IQ( we will say intelligent) and that is the reason they are against education in this country. They need dumb voters to stay in power.
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dumb voters are dependent voters and its the left that needs dependent people to stay in power. Furthermore, the leftwing elite's premise is that they are smarter than everyone else and thus they ought to run everyone else's' lives so they pretend they are smarter. The fact is, the left has some very smart nefarious power hungry elites who wish to be parents of millions of low wattage children. We on the right don't need parents and want to be left alone.
 
TurtleDude said:
dumb voters are dependent voters and its the left that needs dependent people to stay in power. Furthermore, the leftwing elite's premise is that they are smarter than everyone else and thus they ought to run everyone else's' lives so they pretend they are smarter. The fact is, the left has some very smart nefarious power hungry elites who wish to be parents of millions of low wattage children. We on the right don't need parents and want to be left alone.
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So, most people who vote on the left are dumb? Or are you saying something else?
 
Montecresto said:
But the findings are scientific, not perceptual.

Last year, a study done at Brock University suggested that a lower I.Q. goes hand in hand with both racism and conservative beliefs. The findings are published in Psychological Science and the study is entitled “Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes: Lower Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact.”
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conservative beliefs can be favoring the status quo including more government. liberal views can mean libertarian views. Many liberals are not creative thinkers and hold the status quo as ideal. Most of those studies play games with what is "conservative and liberal" by people who feel a need to pretend they are smarter than those who don't agree with them.

Brock University? never heard of it. in other words, it must be fourth tier at best
 
Dovkan said:
So, most people who vote on the left are dumb? Or are you saying something else?
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those who are dependent on government tend to be less talented intellectually than those who are not.
 
TurtleDude said:
those who are dependent on government tend to be less talented intellectually than those who are not.
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Haha, you just don't realise all the ways that you're life depends on government doing its job.
 
Montecresto said:
Haha, you just don't realise all the ways that you're life depends on government doing its job.
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that's far different than donning kneepads and a bib and suckling from the public tit for the rest of one's life
 
Montecresto said:
Lol, it's not my science. I guess you thought it was my study. Also, you either haven't read the studies, or you're just a conservative mischaracterising it for the obvious reasons.
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You brought the study to the discussion, so in that way, it was your science. Again, this thread is about opinions, not your silly study. And yes, I think it is as much bunk as those who peddle the idea that some races have higher IQ's than others.

What exactly is your agenda here?
 
Poll is exactly as I suspected it'd be lol and on a radically conservative forum to boot.

:)

It's really no wonder why.. All you have to do is listen to the average "Obama is Socialist" Goper..

 
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AliHajiSheik said:
You brought the study to the discussion, so in that way, it was your science. Again, this thread is about opinions, not your silly study. And yes, I think it is as much bunk as those who peddle the idea that some races have higher IQ's than others.

What exactly is your agenda here?
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What's your agenda here dude, to peddle your opinion I presume. It's not my thread, I just answered the question with two now, scientific studies. Some few people still believe the earth to be flat, haven't accepted the science to its spherical properties, some people dismiss the scientific evidence of climate change, those aren't my sciences. Join or remain in the group you wish to.
 
Montecresto said:
What's your agenda here dude, to peddle your opinion I presume. It's not my thread, I just answered the question with two now, scientific studies. Some few people still believe the earth to be flat, haven't accepted the science to its spherical properties, some people dismiss the scientific evidence of climate change, those aren't my sciences. Join or remain in the group you wish to.
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Not my fault you can't read the very simple (stupid, but simple) question which the OP asks. The rest of your non-sequitur is worse than boring.
 
I have known smart conservatives and stupid liberals. Of course I have known a good deal of smart liberals and some dumb conservatives. I think the smartest people are generally fairly moderate / centrist.
 
In the most general terms, liberalism challenges the brain more, because it asks people to consider new ideas.

With conservatism, you can just stick to the dogma (whatever it may be) without needing to think about it.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Not my fault you can't read the very simple (stupid, but simple) question which the OP asks. The rest of your non-sequitur is worse than boring.
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If you're so bored, suppose you move along and stop your whining.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
20% is a far greater proportion than 1%. Mathematically, the wealthiest Americans are overrepresented in government.
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You would expect that and it is actually probably good for society. The wealth do after all understand the use of capital, the decisions behind allocation and management of it.it being the limiting factor in most periods of history, it is often better to understand these things well in regulating one's society.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: As I recall, the last time we went over this, I showed you how it was the modern day puritan left that was more likely to try to purge Heresy from our public discourse, and you did not respond.
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Don't you know? Everything bad said about the right is always true, but nothing bad about the left ever is. It is funny that this thread was started to bash the right and it's your post people take issue with. It's not surprising though. Nothing ever changes.
 
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