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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    No one has yet to show that the wealthy have too much power.
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    You judge that by the local prevailing rate, just as you judge the conditions by the local requirements.

    If it is only worth 0.50¢ a week, that is all it is worth.


    It is none of your business.


    Irrelevant and emotional argument.
    And a poor ****ing argument to make anyways. The end result of providing such ends up with more resources needed to continue providing for them and their offspring.
    Which just begets more in the same circumstances.


    An illogical argument on many fronts.
    Manual labor is a dime a dozen and as such is worth that.
    Scarce and more skilled labor is worth more.
    And again, locality determines what the labor is worth. And no, said miners are not entitled to million dollar bonuses. That is not what there labor is worth.


    Did I stutter? Those are the arguments you are making and as such fail.


    Are they providing something of value for receiving it?


    You are the one who made this personal.
    I was just agreeing with you in regards to that specific.
    If you don't like that I would suggest not making such lame statements or questions.


    Lame argument.
    Reality shows us that there are multiple reasons some folks are unable and incapable of achieving. That all resides with their own self.


    Again; The greedy jealous and envious that cannot (or choose not to) compete want such nonsense. You are just exemplifying such.
    Other people's money is not your business. Period.


    You brought them up in another emotional argument, so prove they are not.
    But I am sure you can not as wanting others to provide is based in greed envy and jealously. You can't change that.
    Even altruistically those base emotions are present.


    If you think that is delusional then the delusion lays all in your own convoluted thoughts.
    50 cents a week is what they're worth when they produce **** loads of more value.. any reason you have for them being worth that much? No wonder capitalists love to move production to third world countries without labor laws/minimum wage laws.
    I'm sorry, it is my business, millions are starving to death.
    You actually think capitalism is benefiting those countries, and they do suffer from malnutrition when capitalists are in there working them for barely anything, and i do look at their food prices/what it's worth over there, you should to.
    Manual labor is worth a dime.. the disrespect for most of the world is hilarious, billions will have to do manual labor, they deserve respect and a decent wage.
    Wait, skilled labor involves looking at excel spreadsheets?
    They are not emotional appeal, ask me what I need to support and I will.
    Are children receiving healthcare providing any value when they receive it? Talk about illogical arguments. Many on welfare work, so I'd say they give back to capitalists.
    Lame statements? You're the one purposefully making yourself look like a dick.
    Really? Ok, let me go down this line, let's assume all countries have access to education, the road to be successful, then we have costs, failure rates, and let alone the fact that manual labor will always exist, and people will always be doing the "worthless" jobs, such as mining, sweatshopping, apple factories, logging, service jobs.. What do you define as success? Do you think everyone just needs to WORK HARDER HARR BECAUSE A MAJORITY CAN OBVIOUSLY ALL BECOME BUSINESSMEN IN SUITS WHO DON'T DO MANUAL LABOR. That makes no sense, I'd rather acknowledge that manual labor requires skill, dedication, and manual laborers work harder then any capitalist.
    It is my business, sorry, I'll underline something to, just kidding.
    Find me anything on MLK/albert einstein wanting to acquire profit.
    The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) - Let alone corporate welfare, etc....

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Are you really going to play ignorant? I'm talking about how they lived and how their society functioned.
    They survived and provided for each other, and if they weren't able to advance at all, how did tools come about? Farms? Fire?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No one has yet to show that the wealthy have too much power.
    Show that they don't, lobbying, in regards to politics is really the main issue.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    They survived and provided for each other, and if they weren't able to advance at all, how did tools come about? Farms? Fire?
    So what, they accidentally set something on fire and they figured out that rocks are hard and can be used for stuff. Cool beans.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Trade: Chapter 105-7: The Lobbying Problem in a Democracy

    I didn't say I don't agree with lobbying, I said lobbying for special interest in terms of governmental fiscal policy to support specific firms, like bailouts, or trade protection.

    How does big pharmaceutical asking for subsidies ignore the constitution? Because it's asking for an econOmic tax break from a institution that doesn't have that constitutional power.
    Key word you used "asking" sorry they can ask all they want but that does not mean what they are asking for will be granted. I don't think it takes constitutional power to ask anything.
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It does encourage greed and exploitation..
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    ok, keep believing capitalism only encourages the worst of human nature.... you believing falsehoods doe no harm to me, so you're free to do so.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So what, they accidentally set something on fire and they figured out that rocks are hard and can be used for stuff. Cool beans.
    he oughta try hunting for an Iphone or gathering nuclear technology sometimes.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ok, keep believing capitalism only encourages the worst of human nature.... you believing falsehoods doe no harm to me, so you're free to do so.
    Keep believing it doesn't.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So what, they accidentally set something on fire and they figured out that rocks are hard and can be used for stuff. Cool beans.
    I'm talking about agricultural methods, way more to it, and even then, we're at a point in society where people voluntarily do things without wanting capital, it's happened all the time. You underestimate people.

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