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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You keep making assumptions, much like Henrin, despite the fact that he follows anarcho capitalism, which has never existed. Really now? More baseless bull****? Stalins method isn't the way to do it, you make more assumptions.
    yes, they are assumptions... though none of them are baseless.

    when dealing in fanciful utopias, assumptions is all we have... yourself included.

    anarcho-capitalism has never existed, that's correct.... it's a far more realistic utopia than communism, but still a utopia.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Also, for POS or something: Poverty Facts and Stats
    A blog? Youre gonna need to come up with more mainstream citations than that. Plus poverty is a relative term, being poor in the US is very different than being poor in the 3rd world.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    If a small group control the mass amount of wealth,
    OMG, the wealth!

    Control the wealth?
    What the **** are you talking about?

    That wealth is earned money that has already had it's taxes paid. As such that wealth is theirs to control as they see fit and is none of your damn business.

    Your whole position is based on envy and jealousy of something that is none of your business.





    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    That's the problem with capitalism, it relies on exploitation of what one's labor is worth for profit.
    Paying a person for what their services are worth is not exploitation.





    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    My dad is on disability, is he a parasite?
    Why the **** are you taking this into the personal realm?
    That is inappropriate.
    The only reason I can see for that is you already know your position is not reasonable or logical so you have to rely on an emotional appeal.
    And not just any emotional appeal, but a personal one at that.






    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I guess I'm a ****ing failure.
    Well said.

    And only you can change that.





    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    People want a minority who control most wealth to contribute to the government, if you don't like it, go fund your own damn country.
    Wrong.
    The greedy jealous and envious that cannot (or choose not to) compete want such nonsense.
    Furthermore the wealthy already contribute far more than their fare share, which those who want such nonsense fail to recognize.
    “The law is reason, free from passion.”
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    OMG, the wealth!

    Control the wealth?
    What the **** are you talking about?

    That wealth is earned money that has already had it's taxes paid. As such that wealth is theirs to control as they see fit and is none of your damn business.

    Your whole position is based on envy and jealousy of something that is none of your business.






    Paying a person for what their services are worth is not exploitation.





    Why the **** are you taking this into the personal realm?
    That is inappropriate.
    The only reason I can see for that is you already know your position is not reasonable or logical so you have to rely on an emotional appeal.
    And not just any emotional appeal, but a personal one at that.






    Well said.

    And only you can change that.





    Wrong.
    The greedy jealous and envious that cannot (or choose not to) compete want such nonsense.
    Furthermore the wealthy already contribute far more than their fare share, which those who want such nonsense fail to recognize.
    Ah, you mean to tell me paying sweat shop workers/other workers less then a dollar a day is what they're worth? A $1.25 a day? $2.50?
    I'm sorry if I'm concerned that a tiny group of people control massive amounts of money they aren't even using, while millions suffer from malnutrition in exploited capitalist countries. You honestly think they're more hard working then the construction worker? The miner in africa?
    Emotional appeal? So you do think people on welfare are parasites? Interesting.
    Ah, good news for applauding me for being a failure, as if you somehow define that for the billions of people who are also "failures" under your ****ing definition.
    The greedy jealous and envious
    - Unbelievable, so, billions of people are greedy when they're happy to just have food and shelter. Nonsense? Yeah, **** albert einstein, martin luther king junior, both socialists. Obvious envious and jealous idiots, am I right? The wealthy contribute more then their fair share? Are you delusional?
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes, they are assumptions... though none of them are baseless.

    when dealing in fanciful utopias, assumptions is all we have... yourself included.

    anarcho-capitalism has never existed, that's correct.... it's a far more realistic utopia than communism, but still a utopia.
    You assume it's more realistic, which may be, but we all know what would happen.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    A blog? Youre gonna need to come up with more mainstream citations than that. Plus poverty is a relative term, being poor in the US is very different than being poor in the 3rd world.
    Dollar a day revisited
    Not sure about the current rates, feel free to find them for me.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Marx's stupid idea of primitive communism. Marx's and Engels admiration of hunter and gather societies was ridiculous.
    Hunter and gathering societies deserve to be admired.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You assume it's more realistic, which may be, but we all know what would happen.
    no, we don't all know what would happen....anarcho-capitalism allows for so much liberty that we really can't even make an informed assumption... far too many societal factors come into play.
    it is that very allowance for liberties that make it more realistic than Communism, though.

    true Communism cannot exist in an environment of liberty... it's far too rigid, far too demanding, and far too restrictive.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hunter and gathering societies deserve to be admired.
    why?...

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hunter and gathering societies deserve to be admired.
    Yes, I imagine you're one of those people that think they represent the most affluent of societies. You're talking about societies that didn't advance at all throughout the entire time they existed and somehow people like Engels wanted to model his ideas around their principles. The principles of a people that created a society where they were fighting for their survival throughout the entire time the system existed. No one worth respecting can actually think it is a good idea to recreate the most stagnated society that ever existed.

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