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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    I think it's funny that you blame capitalism for Chinese income inequality, when the most freest market regions and civil freedom regions have the highest stable growth with the least amount of income inequality within China.

    Also, a very funny fact that with liberalized trade we also see human transportation cost completely reDuced, so with things like India we are seeing massive GDP growth because the ability for pEople to go from India to places like untied states to take advantage of the education system to learn things like engineering etc etc and then bringing back the higher skills to India and developing infrastructure. Thus, pushing standard of living, as well as individual wealth up.

    The reason people make less then 10$ a day is because central planned economic structure devalue currencies in order to trade at a cheaper cost. This also ties into the fact that aid and trade internationally come with restrictions on what is proDuced in developing nations. So, if we create a loan to a country in Africa and tell them they have to trade us X amount of flowers at Z price, what happens is it boosts their economy but restricts them on diversity of their production. This is where develOping nations can not grow an economy, and it's not because we've opened free trade but because of restrictions.

    But yet you blame free markets...
    You should note that the majority of those making less then $10 a day live in capitalist countries.
    Good job on avoiding most of my points by the way.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    We produce that much under capitalism, a flexible system, with communism, a system that can not expand or retract we can not produce that much with out force fRom a state
    A system that fails miserably at distributing the surplus it produces, it's more profitable to throw it all away while 45% of all child deaths are linked to malnutrition. - WHO
    Communism is a stateless society without money or social classes. Why couldn't we produce that much?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You should note that the majority of those making less then $10 a day live in capitalist countries.
    Good job on avoiding most of my points by the way.
    Yet they still rely on central planning to devalue the currency, it's not a free market with a central planned system, thus the consumer no Longer dictates the price making it not a capitalist society

    What points did I miss?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It wasn't, but the USSR put forth one of the fastest cases of industrialization in human history.
    The USSR was build on military production, not investment in the civilian economy. The USSR was a society built on the backs of the dead, robbed, and enslaved. It was a society built for the military interests of the state.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    In reference to a state, I suppose if you call the common people enforcers, then go with it.
    what are these "eneforcers" enforcing?...laws?.. or simply thier whims?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Yet they still rely on central planning to devalue the currency, it's not a free market with a central planned system, thus the consumer no Longer dictates the price making it not a capitalist society

    What points did I miss?
    Reread the post.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The USSR was build on military production, not investment in the civilian economy. The USSR was a society built on the backs of the dead, robbed, and enslaved. It was a society built for the military interests of the state.
    I know it was, I threw that out there as a joke, since many claim that the USSR was "socialist." Oh yes, the workers CLEARLY owned the production.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    This only refers to property that can benefit everyone, your house doesn't constitute this, keep spewing the usual bull**** instead of wanting intelligent discussion like usual.
    wanting socialism or worse, communism, is hardly intelligent. and its true, communism is the religion of failures and those who want to oppress others by pandering to profound butt hurt



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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what are these "eneforcers" enforcing?...laws?.. or simply thier whims?
    Enforcers referring to everybody, it's a simple truth that we dislike the idea of murdering other humans.. When everyone lives comfortably and collectively owns the production, why would people put up with a greedy bastard? I don't like discussing hypothetical of communism, or anarcho capitalism, it's pointless.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Reread the post.
    I did maybe you didn't make your points clear enough for a foolish free-market enthusiast

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