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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree with you, we don't have enough power though. we still are parasitized by the masses when it comes to tax. If we have the right amount of power, we would have votes proportionate to our share of paying for the federal taxes. Like us top 1% getting 40% of the votes.
    I seriously hope you're joking. You don't help your case.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hey, anyone who exploits labor and accumulates wealth in mass numbers while millions starve to death is a scum in my book.
    and to you that means anyone who is an employer who pays the going wage I suspect



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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    IDK if they have too much power at the moment, but their power seems to be increasing and that can eventually become a problem even if it isn't already. It seems like all of the proposed solutions would actually make the problem worse.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hey, anyone who exploits labor and accumulates wealth in mass numbers while millions starve to death is a scum in my book.
    Your idea of exploitation is a salary less than the total amount produced. You still haven't told me why someone would take part in a trade when they get nothing from it.

    Sorry, but your idea of exploitation is retarded.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I seriously hope you're joking. You don't help your case.
    Nope, I want to have votes proportionate to my share of paying for government. I tire of ten parasites who pay nothing demanding that people like me pay more and more taxes. If one group pays for 40% of the federal government, they ought to have 40% of the say of how that government spends the money



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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and to you that means anyone who is an employer who pays the going wage I suspect
    Yes, capitalism relies on exploiting cheap labor, paying the lowest wages.. I ascribe to the labor theory of value, you may not, but I don't care. You've already established the kind of person you are.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    its funny when rich people complain about taxes as if their living standard is threatened by them

    "b-b-but its the principle of the thing!!"
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Your idea of exploitation is a salary less than the total amount produced. You still haven't told me why someone would take part in a trade when they get nothing from it.

    Sorry, but your idea of exploitation is retarded.
    Yes, the worker is not paid for the amount he is producing, almost always with a massive gap. Why would someone take part in a trade when they get nothing from it? It's exploitation, you support my case, the capitalist relies on not giving the laborer a fair payment for his labor, in order to achieve profit.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes, capitalism relies on exploiting cheap labor, paying the lowest wages.. I ascribe to the labor theory of value, you may not, but I don't care. You've already established the kind of person you are.
    The labor theory of value was even dropped by Marx himself. At least ascribe to a theory that isn't debunked nonsense.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes, capitalism relies on exploiting cheap labor, paying the lowest wages.. I ascribe to the labor theory of value, you may not, but I don't care. You've already established the kind of person you are.
    yeah the kind of person I am is that adults ought to be able to contract without others interfering. I think allowing government to "right all the wrongs" that the butt hurt and envious complain about leads to the crap we saw in Pol Pot's "killing fields" or Mao's "Great leap forward" and other government created atrocities



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