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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not really. Socialism involves a considerable amount of immoral acts that must be taken for the system to be put in place and function, which usually speaking people aren't so happy with doing themselves.
    The only immoral act I can think of is giving the means of production to the workers, and taking them away from the capitalists who owned them. View it how you will. I'm seriously going to bed now though.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Yes and it makes me sick. We need redistribution.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Wait, a society where everyone helps each other? I thought human nature prevented this? Now tell me why communism isn't viable.
    You do realize what happens when they refuse to help, right? It's not a bad system as a form of charity, but as a backbone to an entire society it's more than a little cruel.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The only immoral act I can think of is giving the means of production to the workers, and taking them away from the capitalists who owned them. View it how you will. I'm seriously going to bed now though.
    This is all ready going on in parts of the country. Work place democracy with worker CO-OP's.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You do realize what happens when they refuse to help, right? It's not a bad system as a form of charity, but as a backbone to an entire society it's more than a little cruel.
    So, every single individual human being would refuse to help a specific individual? Forreal, im off to bed now.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    This is all ready going on in parts of the country. Work place democracy with worker CO-OP's.
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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    So, every single individual human being would refuse to help a specific individual? Forreal, im off to bed now.
    Ahem..they can only get assistance if they give assistance. Do you really want a society where people are kicked out if they refuse to help others?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    They are not steering it in both directions. They make a hard right and then when they make a soft right it appears that they are going in the both directions. Clinton and Obama both have governed to the right of Nixon. Not only that but because they control the means to steer public opinion, they public doesn't say wait a minute until wealthy elites give the idea.
    the money comes in from both sides, man.

    as for influence, fox and talk radio lean hard American right. MSNBC and some talk shows lean hard American left. mainstream media leans soft American left. MSNBC leans hard American left.

    the public generally doesn't say "wait a minute" before it hits their doorsteps. this generally happens when the economy crashes or something serious happens, like a transition from manufacturing to a global / post labor economy. if there's not enough opportunity, people turn to safety nets. if there are no safety nets, people start to consider other options.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Lucky
    Some American companies go to Mondragon in Spain, like GM & others. To learn why the company is so efficient. The reason is because everyone owns the company & cares about the production.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    The " wealthy " should " pay their fair share " and be punished because losers are envious of their wealth.
    Frankly, I'm not so worried about how much money they have.

    Far more worried by how much political influence they have.
    Money is one thing, but power is something else again.
    Sadly, the two are directly linked in most cases these days.
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    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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