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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Welfare is just mindless statism. People that worship the state are idiots.
    How else do you propose these people get help? Welfare includes disability as well.. What, will the unregulated free market provide for them?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hey, tell that to those who were living under feudalism, It may not seem realistic to you, but that doesn't mean I can't support an idea that is highly plausible in the future.
    A system that leads to totalitarianism is never going to be desirable.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    A system that leads to totalitarianism is never going to be desirable.
    A system that has never existed will somehow lead to totalitarianism based on your observations of something that has never existed, gotcha. I'm off to bed.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Not if everyone collectively works together, in a hypothetical communist society. where such a surplus exists that enough resources exist for everybody.
    What communist society has EVER had a surplus of anything other than suffering and police?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    How else do you propose these people get help? Welfare includes disability as well.. What, will the unregulated free market provide for them?
    You would think socialists would look towards the community to help the poor, not the state, but hey, socialists are usually confused about their own ideology.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I threw out socialist as a joke, as that is what most people who don't have a sense of what a socialist is would call you, we've been taught to believe free healthcare and social programs are socialist, well, somewhat..
    i got the joke. i was pointing out that real socialism is actually something significantly to the left of the definition commonly embraced in the US.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What communist society has EVER had a surplus of anything other than suffering and police?
    A communist society would have no state, no money, and no social classes, show me one that has existed. You may be referring to socialist states run by dictators and psychopaths. The basic lack of understanding is astounding.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i got the joke. i was pointing out that real socialism is actually something significantly to the left of the definition commonly embraced in the US.
    Oh yeah, absolutely.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they do control the means to steer public opinion, but they steer it in both directions. the general public has the ability to say wait a minute, what? the general public's power is more latent, but my guess is that it is greater. unfortunately, "go team" screws up the signal to noise ratio when it comes to rational discussion. none of us are immune to that, which is also unfortunate.
    They are not steering it in both directions. They make a hard right and then when they make a soft right it appears that they are going in the both directions. Clinton and Obama both have governed to the right of Nixon. Not only that but because they control the means to steer public opinion, they public doesn't say wait a minute until wealthy elites give the idea.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You would think socialists would look towards the community to help the poor, not the state, but hey, socialists are usually confused about their own ideology.
    I could agree, if we could somehow get the entire country to help everyone through their communities, it just doesn't happen, which is why socialists look to the state.

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