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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes. /thread
    Lol !!

    The " wealthy " should " pay their fair share " and be punished because losers are envious of their wealth.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Wait, you're telling me to keep a balance, we need to help the poor and make sure people have food, healthcare?
    yes.

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    Socialist.
    not really. European center left; on the American political scale, that would be further to the left. socialism is giving the means of production to the workers.

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    (Seriously though, this makes sense, I've never thought of it like this) But unfortunately, money is linked to power, corporations control the most watched media by the voters, money controls advertisements run.. I wouldn't call it balanced.
    it's tipped towards the wealthy at this point, as they can buy legislation, and the successful legislators who are beholden to them can draw their own districts. also, money is viewed as speech now. however, there are still more poor and middle class people, and that does count for something. power balance is probably 65 / 35 in favor of the wealthy. this is skewed a bit more when you take into account that you're talking about ten percent of the population.

    it might be skewed more or less than that. the numbers that i threw out are really rough estimates based on my observations.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    The " wealthy " should " pay their fair share " and be punished because losers are envious of their wealth.
    Bravo, bravo.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yes.



    not really. European center left; on the American political scale, that would be further to the left. socialism is giving the means of production to the workers.



    it's tipped towards the wealthy at this point, as they can buy legislation, and the successful legislators who are beholden to them can draw their own districts. also, money is viewed as speech now. however, there are still more poor and middle class people, and that does count for something. power balance is probably 65 / 35 in favor of the wealthy. this is skewed a bit more when you take into account that you're talking about ten percent of the population.

    it might be skewed more or less than that. the numbers that i threw out are really rough estimates based on my observations.
    I threw out socialist as a joke, as that is what most people who don't have a sense of what a socialist is would call you, we've been taught to believe free healthcare and social programs are socialist, well, somewhat..

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Not if everyone collectively works together, in a hypothetical communist society. where such a surplus exists that enough resources exist for everybody.
    Yes, you get back to me when that works.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is too much power and something needs to be done about it.
    Yes. And who can we depend on to put the " Rich " in their place ?

    The Government ? Because these simplistic, lazy and childish agenda's based on envy and a manufactured divisive narratives have done wonders when applied in other Countries.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes. And who can we depend on to put the " Rich " in their place ?

    The Government ? Because these simplistic, lazy and childish agenda's based on envy and a manufactured divisive narratives have done wonders when applied in other Countries.
    So you are saying that the wealthy should be allowed to do as they please?

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Wait, you're telling me to keep a balance, we need to help the poor and make sure people have food, healthcare? Socialist. (Seriously though, this makes sense, I've never thought of it like this) But unfortunately, money is linked to power, corporations control the most watched media by the voters, money controls advertisements run.. I wouldn't call it balanced.
    Welfare is just mindless statism. People that worship the state are idiots.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, you get back to me when that works.
    Hey, tell that to those who were living under feudalism, It may not seem realistic to you, but that doesn't mean I can't support an idea that is highly plausible in the future.

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    Re: Do the wealthy have too much power in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is true, but they also have control over the level of protection that those safety nets offer because they control the politicians that put such mechanisms into place in the first place. But I think what disturbs me most of all is the amount of influence that they have on the way people think. That is very disturbing.
    they do control the means to steer public opinion, but they steer it in both directions. the general public has the ability to say wait a minute, what? the general public's power is more latent, but my guess is that it is greater. unfortunately, "go team" screws up the signal to noise ratio when it comes to rational discussion. none of us are immune to that, which is also unfortunate.

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