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Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?[W:118]

Should the State force Sally to be ****'d by white men?


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Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

I don't belive so, no....I think the market is perfectly capable of handling this particular situation.



that's absolutely true....

The market, it's always the market. The market clearly handled rights issues well in the past. /sarcasm
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

An interesting question that got asked.


Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?
What the ****ing hell?

No prostitute should ever be forced to have sex with anyone.

Now, granted, I am aware that your stereotypical pimp might have something to say about that, but they are in the wrong.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

As for the poll, where is the line drawn between public and private?

In some cases, I think all business are considered public, in which case, they're not allowed to discriminate?

IDFK
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

The market, it's always the market. The market clearly handled rights issues well in the past. /sarcasm

aaaaand this is where you provide and argument as to why you believe the market is incapable of handling this specific situation.

ready.... set.... go.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

aaaaand this is where you provide and argument as to why you believe the market is incapable of handling this specific situation.

ready.... set.... go.

History. The market was perfectly fine with discrimination, slavery, no wage laws, paying out laughable wages, horrible safety standards, exploiting cheap labor, etc, etc, etc.. All of this was alleviated to an extent with regulation. The market can't handle rights situations, it hasn't from what I'm, it's up to you to give me an example, as you made the claim that the market would deal with it.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

History. The market was perfectly fine with discrimination, slavery, no wage laws, paying out laughable wages, horrible safety standards, exploiting cheap labor, etc, etc, etc.. All of this was alleviated to an extent with regulation. The market can't handle rights situations, it hasn't from what I'm, it's up to you to give me an example, as you made the claim that the market would deal with it.


nothing you said is relevent to his particualr situation..... please try again.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

JFC, do you ever demonstrate the point that fundies are freaks. If handing out a slice of cake to a gay person stresses you on the same level or worse then killing somebody, you have very deep issues. And this is where reasonable and rational people need to intervene and call bull****.

This is how it starts. YOU decide what is acceptable for someone to feel. What you are doing is no different than those who decided that homosexual's attractions to each other weren't acceptable, so they told them their feelings were wrong and irrational. THIS is the danger behind this crap, that bigots get to decide what is acceptable and what isn't.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

nothing you said is relevent to his particualr situation..... please try again.

It is completely relevant, you said the market would handle the situation, give me an example where the market has handled the situation without regulations.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

It's easier then that, as an independent contractor Sally has a contractual relationship with clients for that service, you don't drive up to the window, order Sally number 5 and proceed to your glory hole, there's negotiation before hand, so it's not public accommodation.

That is a good point. Its not a public accommodation, so the original premise of the poll / op is flawed.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

It is completely relevant, you said the market would handle the situation, give me an example where the market has handled the situation without regulations.

you're not paying attention to the conversation.....I've already touched on what is the market soluition for this problem... it's embodied in the words "dead broke".
it takes no government regulation for her to be removed from the market... her own decision to discriminate agasint white men would do that in very short order.

you seem to have a big problem with the words "this particualr situation"... and an even bigger problem understanding market forces and thier consequences.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

you're not paying attention to the conversation.....I've already touched on what is the market soluition for this problem... it's embodied in the words "dead broke".
it takes no government regulation for her to be removed from the market... her own decision to discriminate agasint white men would do that in very short order.

you seem to have a big problem with the words "this particualr situation"... and an even bigger problem understanding market forces and thier consequences.

Still not giving me an example where the market has actually done something for anything regarding issues related to this.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Still not giving me an example where the market has actually done something for anything regarding issues related to this.

oy vey:roll:...nevermind
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

History. The market was perfectly fine with discrimination, slavery, no wage laws, paying out laughable wages, horrible safety standards, exploiting cheap labor, etc, etc, etc.. All of this was alleviated to an extent with regulation. The market can't handle rights situations, it hasn't from what I'm, it's up to you to give me an example, as you made the claim that the market would deal with it.

Exactly. This is why we have regulation, though its a constant battle to hang onto that as well.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

This is how it starts. YOU decide what is acceptable for someone to feel. What you are doing is no different than those who decided that homosexual's attractions to each other weren't acceptable, so they told them their feelings were wrong and irrational. THIS is the danger behind this crap, that bigots get to decide what is acceptable and what isn't.

No, I don't care what someone feels. I care about equal rights. Which, because men aren't angels, need to be protected by legislation.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

What the ****ing hell?

No prostitute should ever be forced to have sex with anyone.

So you think that enforcing anti-discrimination laws in this instance would be wrong? Why?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Some people refuse to see any lines and want to use the force of government to provide the service. I think a business that involves physical non-emergency contact should be allowed to refuse service.

:confused: what makes that a line?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

So you think that enforcing anti-discrimination laws in this instance would be wrong? Why?
Because it would require physical coercion of a person. And mental coercion for that matter.

Unless a prostituted freely signed a legal contract requiring them to "service" anyone who wanted them to...

Hell not even then.

In my mind, sex without consent is unacceptable.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

The question is whether or not the State should force her to do so or punish her for not doing so. Talking about brothel shop policy does not answer the question about whether or not the State should force her to do so or punish her for refusing.



:shrug: ditto most photographers.



Such as? What about Gender?

And I still can't help but notice that you are avoiding the issue at question - are you willing to force someone to violate themselves in that way in the name of non-discrimination, or punish them for not doing so?



:shrug: not as near as I can see. :) we seem to have quite a few folks who (as predicted) are refusing to vote or answer.

Why do you keep saying I have not answered the question, when I very clearly have? Just because I choose to not answer it in the form you want does not mean I am running from the question.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

whay are brothels not considered public accomodations to you?

in Nevada, they are public busineses, licensed through a qualified municipality, offering entertainment services.... legally no different than a movie theater ( though obvisouly dramatically different in the type of entertainnment they offer:lol:)

I mentioned this in my first post that I was not 100 % sure, but that I saw reference(I forget where now) to them being considered private clubs. Still a business, still licensed, but not a public accommodation. I did make it a point to also answer with the assumption that it was a public accommodation, so I answered both ways essentially.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Only the christian victimhood complex could come up with such insane hyperbole. Selling a cake to a homosexual is not the same thing as being forced to have sex with someone. I wish that you had at least an ounce of shame and you should be embarrassed for making such a comparison.

Since I do not believe the baker's conscience should be punished, I probably would go along with allowing her to refuse services. But I would point out that the protection of religious freedom might be argued to enjoy higher constitutional protection than "I don't feel like it". ;)
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Ah. So it's easier to pretend to spin away. :)




But no - Sally is discriminating in who she is willing to do business with based on race. Should the state force her to cease her discrimination and let her self get ****'d by white men?




I predict that few folks in favor of forcing Christians to violate their faith will be willing to vote.

Discrimination on the basis of race? That's not nice. I thought Martin Luther King had said that must stop.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

An interesting question that got asked.


Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?

If you are going to allow discrimination against religion you might as well allow racism. Power to the people! Huh?
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

:shrug: the reasoning would seem to suggest no. I suppose you could then force lesbian prostitutes to have sex with men, and so on.

This is true. When the state licenses a business enterprise, such as prostitution in Nevada, that business enterprise must be governed by all the public accommodation laws in place.
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Only the christian victimhood complex could come up with such insane hyperbole. Selling a cake to a homosexual is not the same thing as being forced to have sex with someone. I wish that you had at least an ounce of shame and you should be embarrassed for making such a comparison.

It almost makes me wish that the OP was forced to sell the cake and then forced to have sex with a disease ridden prostitute and then reconsider
 
Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

Such hate!

Notice ladies and gentlemen we cannot simply have "Christians" engaging in hyperbole, they have to be "the christian victimhood complex"...


Death threats, a call top arson, the forced closure of a family business.....nothing stops the Amerikan "liberal" from demeaning and degrading other Americans.

And while we're at it I need to add the topic is rather ridiculous, but no more so than 80% of the socialist hate that's being posted on this topic.

FFS, Germany, France, Canada, Britain, Australia and others have all settled this a long time ago without death threats. So much hate......

where the **** was he making death threats?

oh yes i'm responsible for every moron's probably joking tweets about burning down a craphole pizza place in middle of nowhere and that *definitely* applies to everyone who opposes "RFRA"
 
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