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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Prostitution shouldn't be legal in the first place.
    I can't see the benefit of keeping it illegal. It's the world's oldest profession, or so they tell me. Short of a nightmare totalitarian dystopia, you're not putting that genie back in the bottle.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Prostitution shouldn't be legal in the first place.
    Why not?
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Prostitution is the sexual exploitation of (mostly) women and children. It encourages human trafficking and slavery. It is, quite simply, anathema to justice and threads like this-- treating human sexuality like any other business-- only demonstrate this.

    The customers of prostitutes are rapists and should be punished accordingly.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Prostitution is the sexual exploitation of (mostly) women and children. It encourages human trafficking and slavery. It is, quite simply, anathema to justice and threads like this-- treating human sexuality like any other business-- only demonstrate this.

    The customers of prostitutes are rapists and should be punished accordingly.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Prostitution is the sexual exploitation of (mostly) women and children. It encourages human trafficking and slavery. It is, quite simply, anathema to justice and threads like this-- treating human sexuality like any other business-- only demonstrate this.

    The customers of prostitutes are rapists and should be punished accordingly.
    Prostitution is a choice. Women have to pay consequences for their choices just like everyone else. It's not the job of the govt to make moral pronouncements on their actions. It's hypocritical to arrest women for taking money for something they can do for free with no legal action.

    But legalizing it and regulating it as a business would provide protections for women. And it still shouldnt be legal for minors, just like cigarettes or alcohol or voting.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it is quite natural and reasonable to be defensive when polemics are employed.....
    No, it's not. It implies you have something to hide, your defenses are razor-thin, or both.

    that you would see their defensiveness as anything other than natural is extraordinary odd.

    employ polemics against anyone, on any basis, and you'll see similar results.... add in issues of a deeply personal nature ( such as faith), and the level of defensiveness is assured to increase.

    you're basically saying " It's stupid that Christians get butt hurt when I attack them"...
    "Attack"? You think polemics are an attack? Wow, you just supported the point I made earlier. If we were to start rounding up Christians and throwing them to the lions, THAT would be an attack. (FWIW, I would fiercely oppose doing anything like that.) But their beliefs are fair game. If they don't like it, then too bad, conservative Christians, keep your views to yourself and out of our laws, out of our politics, and off our news programming. Your leader preached that you reap what you sow. To sow discord and to claim to be the victim when you're called on it is cowardice, pure and simple.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    An interesting question that got asked.


    Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

    Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


    Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?
    It would be wrong, of course, to "force" her , BUT , if 99 to 89% of the clientele are "white", and this "discrimination" causes dollars to be lost , then she would have to compromise or be fired ..

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If Sally is a legally recognized prostitute in the state of Nevada and thus her product is sex, then denying that product to individuals based upon their race is by definition discrimination.

    If it is that big of a deal with Sally, then she is certainly free to find another profession to work in and thus would never have to sell her product (sex with her) to a white man.
    It's easier then that, as an independent contractor Sally has a contractual relationship with clients for that service, you don't drive up to the window, order Sally number 5 and proceed to your glory hole, there's negotiation before hand, so it's not public accommodation.

    So the easiest way to explain how I feel, a bakery should be able to refuse to cater specific events, like a wedding, but if a gay man wants a cake that says happy birthday Clarence right off of the Shelf the baker should not be able to refuse.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Prostitution is a choice. Women have to pay consequences for their choices just like everyone else. It's not the job of the govt to make moral pronouncements on their actions. It's hypocritical to arrest women for taking money for something they can do for free with no legal action.

    But legalizing it and regulating it as a business would provide protections for women. And it still shouldnt be legal for minors, just like cigarettes or alcohol or voting.
    Yet minors drink and smoke all the time because it's easy to access.

    Your argument is self refuting. I hope you would agree with me that sex without consent is rape, and no woman should submit to rape to keep her job. But if we legalized and regulated prostitution like any other business, eventually a discrimination suit will be filed, and a state judge will tell the hooker "have sex with this man or face penalties and lose your sex worker license" call me a cynic but really it will be a matter of time before the state starts ordering women to submit to rape if prostitution is generally legal
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I sawe this example a couple days ago and wondered when the echo chamber would get around to bringing it here. It is a good example of what is wrong with the echo chamber, no fact checking, repeating stupid memes, and generally failing to think for themselves. First off, as best I can tell(I will admit to not finding it explicitly stated), it appears brothels are private clubs. You do not just walk into a brothel like a bar, but buzz for admittance. Also, the prostitutes themselves are not private contractors, which changes the rules somewhat. But that aside, based on anecdote, prostitutes are required to sleep with whoever is let in:

    Working In Nevada:

    So it looks like you trying to equate one thing with something completely different because you want them to be the same so you can make a lame point you heard in the echo chamber fails.
    I heard it from another poster I agree I thought it a good question - are those who wish to push the illegality of any discrimination willing to enforce rulings against racial discrimination if it means forcing a woman to receive sexual acts she does not want to? Do they recognize a limiting principle? If so - can they elucidate it?

    Thus far it seems the answer to the last is, "no".

    But I can't help but notice you didn't really answer the question? You seem to suggest it by the blog you linked - are you indeed willing to state that the State should either force Sally to sleep with white men, or punish her for her refusal to do so?
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