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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's not about the actions of the individual, but the actions of the State. For some people, the act of supporting a homosexual marriage may actually be more stressful than killing someone. Should the State have the right to force someone into doing something that violates their core beliefs?? Based on what this nations has done in the past, that answer is a resounding "NO!!". This is something that the left once fought for and now fights against (and that the right has embarrassingly dodged for far too long). Either that State has the right to force you violate your core beliefs or it doesn't. The scope of that belief is NOT up to you or me to decide, since it is ENTIRELY subjective.
    JFC, do you ever demonstrate the point that fundies are freaks. If handing out a slice of cake to a gay person stresses you on the same level or worse then killing somebody, you have very deep issues. And this is where reasonable and rational people need to intervene and call bull****.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. The whole bible is comical to me, I put no stock in it. But I'll tell you what. Judaism is no different than Christianity when it comes to interpretation. Ask an orthodox Jew if he can sell leavened products from his business during the Days of Unleavened Bread and Passover.
    In general, Jews tend to be MUCH better at explaining controversial statements in their holy text than conservative Christians do. Seriously, you can't say ANYTHING polemic to a conservative Christian without their persecution complex kicking in. And before the CC's prove my point by accusing me of generalizing them, then fine, that only applies to 99.999% of them.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's not about the actions of the individual, but the actions of the State. For some people, the act of supporting a homosexual marriage may actually be more stressful than killing someone.
    Then they should not open a business where they might have to do that. Just like the prostitute in the OP.

    They are not entitled to open a business in a state. The state sets the stipulations, laws, and guidelines for businesses in that state. If you cannot abide by that contract, then you can choose another line of work or open a business that does not require that you come in contact with those you would discriminate against.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post

    Likewise, if the prostitute refused to service a lesbian. If your business is providing sexual pleasure, surely you can't discriminate on sexual orientation grounds, can you?
    Oooo! This is good! That is very interesting. Esp. since I believe that prostitution should be legal and regulated.

    Personally, I would find sex with strangers disgusting in general so I dont think the gender would matter. But it's sure an interesting case to explore. Esp. for male prostitutes.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    An interesting question that got asked.


    Sally decides to go to Nevada and become a prostitute. She wants to go to college later on, and needs the money.

    Sally, however, is black, and has traumatic memories of being racially discriminated against / abused / what-have-you by white men. So Sally decides she's not willing to have sex with white men - it's too personal, too painful.


    Should the state force Sally to have sex with white men, against her will? Should the state force her to be sexually penetrated by the men who will re-awaken her trauma, or punish her if she doesn't want to?
    according to our anti-discrimination laws... she would be liable for damages if , indeed, a suit was brought against her.

    realistically, a legal prostitute in Nevada who refuses to have sex with white men can only be described by 2 words.... dead broke.
    were she to make her discriminatory practices known to the house, the house wouldn't allow her to contract her services through them... if she hid those discriminatory practices, the house could possibly file suit against her , in addition to the customer filing suit.

    in any event, we're talking about legal prostitutes in Nevada... arguably the least judgmental and least discriminatory people on the planet.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    In general, Jews tend to be MUCH better at explaining controversial statements in their holy text than conservative Christians do. Seriously, you can't say ANYTHING polemic to a conservative Christian without their persecution complex kicking in. And before the CC's prove my point by accusing me of generalizing them, then fine, that only applies to 99.999% of them.
    Exactly. Ask a reformed or liberal Jew the same question I asked of the orthodox (better yet, I think they have an ultra Orthodox Jew now) Jew and you'll get different answers. Or even better yet, ask a messianic Jew if he even has to refrain from consuming leavening during Passover.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    The OP in this thread is about as close as I get to a roller coaster these days. I want to know how this black prostitute plans to legally practice prostitution in a state where 70% of the population is white. Also, doesn't Nevada prostitution work with brothels? Wouldn't she contractually agree to work under the state laws on the matter? Laws which take into consideration non-discrimination measures? **** Sally. Get your **** together, girl.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    In general, Jews tend to be MUCH better at explaining controversial statements in their holy text than conservative Christians do. Seriously, you can't say ANYTHING polemic to a conservative Christian without their persecution complex kicking in. And before the CC's prove my point by accusing me of generalizing them, then fine, that only applies to 99.999% of them.
    it is quite natural and reasonable to be defensive when polemics are employed..... that you would see their defensiveness as anything other than natural is extraordinary odd.

    employ polemics against anyone, on any basis, and you'll see similar results.... add in issues of a deeply personal nature ( such as faith), and the level of defensiveness is assured to increase.

    you're basically saying " It's stupid that Christians get butt hurt when I attack them"...

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I forgot, you aren't ever serious. My apologies.
    Wait...you were being serious???

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Prostitution shouldn't be legal in the first place.

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