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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Conservative Christian, Evangelical Christian, Whatever Christian. You are being spectacularly defensive, something that conservative Christians are well-known for. So whatever expedient title of the type of Christian you wish to claim to be cannot cover up your defensiveness. And you know what? Of all the religions whose followers I have engaged in debate--which, specifically, are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--Christians are by far the most defensive of these three. It's not even close. Jews and Muslims are SOOOO much better than you guys in this regard. I wonder why that is, Thrilla?
    I'm being "spectacularly defensive"?... ... dude, i'm not even upset at your bigotry and i'm providing simple easy answers to your ongoing attacks.

    and i really don't care about your opinion over who is more or less defensive among the different religions... it means absolutely nothing to anybody who isn't you.

    Go back and reread my accusation of your lack of faith. I stand by what I said and refuse to apologize for it. It needs no clarification. You just didn't like it because it is true and because you are defensive.
    let me guess...you're a teenager, right?

    you saying it's true means nothing.. you have absolutely zero standing to measure or judge anyone elses faith... period, end of story.

    of course i don't expect you to apologize... it takes integrity to apologize for bigotry and dumb arguments based on bigotry.

    I don't like your argument because it's bull****... you are making positive claims based on the unknowable.

    btw, it's not the christian in me that has a problem with your arguments, it's the intellectual in me that does.... dumb arguments are dumb.


    By the way. How do you feel about the steady decline in church membership in America over the last few decades?
    I don't feel anything about it.... other peoples religious beliefs or habits are none of my business.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, it's discriminating ideology that needs to be fixed. Gay people have been around far longer than Christians, religions come and go. Unless there are laws against discrimination, it won't go away. If we want to allow Christians to discriminate against the LGBT, then we aren't making progress.
    If you want to allow anyone to discriminate against anyone, then you aren't making progress. Why focus on only specific groups? Why not address the whole of the problem??
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    If you want to allow anyone to discriminate against anyone, then you aren't making progress. Why focus on only specific groups? Why not address the whole of the problem??
    so prior to getting married, I was wrong to discriminate against gay people in choosing possibly partners?

    this notion that it is wrong to discriminate is asinine.

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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No! I don't get the point, because, not only wouldn't they cater during Passover to the Muslim, they wouldn't do it for the gay guy, the straight guy, the Christian, the Hindu, the Jew or the atheist. You'll need to dream up another gotcha hypothetical to distract from the real time discrimination that Christians are projecting on the LGBT community.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    If you want to allow anyone to discriminate against anyone, then you aren't making progress. Why focus on only specific groups? Why not address the whole of the problem??
    Was Rosa Parks discriminating against White people when she moved to the front of the bus and took a seat?
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If Sally is a legally recognized prostitute in the state of Nevada and thus her product is sex, then denying that product to individuals based upon their race is by definition discrimination.

    If it is that big of a deal with Sally, then she is certainly free to find another profession to work in and thus would never have to sell her product (sex with her) to a white man.


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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Was Rosa Parks discriminating against White people when she moved to the front of the bus and took a seat?
    In that case the rhetoric was "Stop discriminating against black people." when it should have been "Stop discriminating." Had this approach been taken, we might not even be having this discussion. Those on the left always seem to focus on one facet of a problem, while ignoring the rest. The problem here isn't "Homosexuals are being discriminated against.", it's "We need to make it clear what forms of discrimination are acceptable and what forms aren't." Making a blanket statement that any form of discrimination is wrong costs us the right to choose who we deal with personally and as a business owner. For example, any business that sells alcohol or tobacco products is REQUIRED by law to discriminate based on age. Businesses that give discounts to seniors are discriminating. Clubs that require paid memberships are discriminating. Our problem is that what is allowed and not allowed is so vaguely defined, that it comes down to which judge hears your case as to how the case is decided and that's a VERY bad thing.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    In that case the rhetoric was "Stop discriminating against black people." when it should have been "Stop discriminating." Had this approach been taken, we might not even be having this discussion. Those on the left always seem to focus on one facet of a problem, while ignoring the rest. The problem here isn't "Homosexuals are being discriminated against.", it's "We need to make it clear what forms of discrimination are acceptable and what forms aren't." Making a blanket statement that any form of discrimination is wrong costs us the right to choose who we deal with personally and as a business owner. For example, any business that sells alcohol or tobacco products is REQUIRED by law to discriminate based on age. Businesses that give discounts to seniors are discriminating. Clubs that require paid memberships are discriminating. Our problem is that what is allowed and not allowed is so vaguely defined, that it comes down to which judge hears your case as to how the case is decided and that's a VERY bad thing.
    Well certainly Christian discrimination against gay people, for no other reason then the fact that they are gay, is one of the unacceptable forms of discrimination.
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well certainly Christian discrimination against gay people, for no other reason then the fact that they are gay, is one of the unacceptable forms of discrimination.
    So this isn't about stopping all discrimination, it's about stopping just one type that you dislike... Sad to see that you WON'T do what's right and insist on just doing what's demanded of you by your ideology. It's attitudes like your that lead to discrimination, not stop it. You choose what you find acceptable and base it ENTIRELY on your own personal bigotry and nothing else. In this case, you would stop one group of people from doing something, but allow others to do the same thing. When will the left learn that you stop problems by addressing the root cause, not by attacking their target of the moment???
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    Re: Addendum to RFRA - should a prostitute be forced to have sex with whites?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    So this isn't about stopping all discrimination, it's about stopping just one type that you dislike... Sad to see that you WON'T do what's right and insist on just doing what's demanded of you by your ideology. It's attitudes like your that lead to discrimination, not stop it. You choose what you find acceptable and base it ENTIRELY on your own personal bigotry and nothing else. In this case, you would stop one group of people from doing something, but allow others to do the same thing. When will the left learn that you stop problems by addressing the root cause, not by attacking their target of the moment???
    Sorry dude, try as you may, equal rights isn't an ideology. I would be criticising the gay owners of a bakery were they to deny you service on the basis of your Christianity, too!!!
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