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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    I don't know about the self-adulation aspect of this thread.
    Politicians should be subject to the same rules they promulgate.
    Simple concept.....not at all foolish.
    Except that it is seen as a way to get back at the politician for perceived wrong-doings to the masses.

    please remeber these are the same people who require all other tax payer funded employees to be drug tested and in some states require welfare recipients to be drug tested as well. These are also the same people authorize the various government agencies to spy on the American people whether they voted for the bill or continue to authorize funding for those agencies.
    He states this not out of sheer fairness, but rather bitterness.

    I would go even further. I would require that all candidates for national office be required to take the same test that immigrants are required to take to become citizens--I think most of them would fail!
    I'm presuming this was said merely to be consistent rather than elevate the profile of the average person, or...aspiring citizen to be superior to that of the elected official?

    Don't get me wrong, I find drug testing welfare recipients to be a waste of time and effort, but let's not kid ourselves that this isn't done out of the spirit of raising pitch forks and lit torches to go at the elite.
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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Except that it is seen as a way to get back at the politician for perceived wrong-doings to the masses.
    He states this not out of sheer fairness, but rather bitterness.
    Maybe so, but requiring pols to adhere to the standards of behavior they legislate is fair.
    Perhaps a taste of their own bitter medicine would cure that streak of hubris many pols exhibit.





    Don't get me wrong, I find drug testing welfare recipients to be a waste of time and effort, but let's not kid ourselves that this isn't done out of the spirit of raising pitch forks and lit torches to go at the elite.
    Motivations aside, I just think it's good policy for the goose and the gander.
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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should politicians be legally required to take drug tests?

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    I say yes they should be tested.What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
    Before anyone utters that is a violation of their privacy rights please remeber these are the same people who require all other tax payer funded employees to be drug tested and in some states require welfare recipients to be drug tested as well. These are also the same people authorize the various government agencies to spy on the American people whether they voted for the bill or continue to authorize funding for those agencies.Plus do you really want elected officials to be under the influence while making laws and policies that effect you?
    Why? They should be required to record their every waking minute to be able to later show their innocents in court.

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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should politicians be legally required to take drug tests?

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    I say yes they should be tested.What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
    Before anyone utters that is a violation of their privacy rights please remeber these are the same people who require all other tax payer funded employees to be drug tested and in some states require welfare recipients to be drug tested as well. These are also the same people authorize the various government agencies to spy on the American people whether they voted for the bill or continue to authorize funding for those agencies.Plus do you really want elected officials to be under the influence while making laws and policies that effect you?
    By who? Their only boss is the citizens. I say no. So long as they are able to do their job, I dont care if theyre doing drugs. If they start causing a problem, then the rest of congress can bring them up on ethics charges.

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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    I rather see them have to take an IQ test.

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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, no one should be drug tested without a warrant or court order. Private companies shouldn't be able to require it of employees. It's none of their business unless the employee shows up drunk or high to work, and then you can fire them for the behavior, not the result of a test.
    It depends on type of job. I don't think I would want a neurosurgeon, bus driver, pilot.... who may be able to hide their drug use well enough not to cause concern at first glance, put my life, or the lives of others, in danger.
    Average politicians are making decisions for us. While that may not harm us immediately, I like to think they should take a sober approach. Would I want all of them drug tested? No. In this case, I agree with you. Unless they show up under the influence, they business is theirs.
    A politician, i.e. POTUS, who may have to make life and death decisions on a moment's notice, yeah, I like him/her sober.

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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I rather see them have to take an IQ test.
    That is a very good point.

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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should politicians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Yes
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    I say yes they should be tested.What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
    Before anyone utters that is a violation of their privacy rights please remeber these are the same people who require all other tax payer funded employees to be drug tested and in some states require welfare recipients to be drug tested as well. These are also the same people authorize the various government agencies to spy on the American people whether they voted for the bill or continue to authorize funding for those agencies.Plus do you really want elected officials to be under the influence while making laws and policies that effect you?
    Personally, I'd say no - it sounds punitive and vindictive, as laid out in the argument and provides no rationale or historical reference for the need to drug test all politicians. Clearly, there is historical reference and rationale for bus/subway drivers, truck drivers, pilots, etc. who have been caught under the influence while operating dangerous equipment/vehicles that can put the general public in peril. I'd like to see some examples of politicians who have been caught in similar circumstances to justify this move.

    I would agree, however, with a law that indicated that if a person holding an elected office, whatever the position, was found guilty of being under the influence while performing their duties they would automatically vacate their seat/position. This is similar to laws where a politician convicted of a felony loses their position and a civil servant found guilty loses their job.
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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I rather see them have to take an IQ test.
    On that same wavelength, I often wonder if the electorate should be required to take an IQ test or at least a current affairs/public knowledge test before being allowed to vote considering some of the losers that sometimes get elected.
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    Re: Should politcians be legally required to take drug tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, no one should be drug tested without a warrant or court order. Private companies shouldn't be able to require it of employees. It's none of their business unless the employee shows up drunk or high to work, and then you can fire them for the behavior, not the result of a test.
    Unfortunately, impairment isn't always readily discernible. And some employees go out to the driveway, get into a company vehicle, and head to the job, and in some cases, they are the only one to show up to that particular job. And a host of other examples could be offered. On the other side, some recreational drugs, that could be used on a persons own time and place, linger in the body too long.
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