View Poll Results: What political issue is the most contentious?

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  • Abortion

    18 33.33%
  • Gay marriage

    3 5.56%
  • Gun control

    2 3.70%
  • Budget/spending

    9 16.67%
  • Immigration

    5 9.26%
  • Separation of church and state

    5 9.26%
  • Taxation

    2 3.70%
  • War on drugs

    0 0%
  • Death penalty

    0 0%
  • Other

    10 18.52%
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Thread: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I was speaking to the past. Slavery was no more "right" when it was legal.
    Slavery has never been right, even though the bible condoned it, old and new, and had rules that regulated the treatment of slaves, and instructions for slaves toward their masters. But today, it is globally recognised that slavery and rape are crimes, whereas not so with abortion. Even so, most people who accept the use of abortion wish it to be safe, legal and rare. As in, most people don't support the notion of irresponsible patterns of behavior that use abortion as birth control.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Slavery has never been right, even though the bible condoned it, old and new, and had rules that regulated the treatment of slaves, and instructions for slaves toward their masters. But today, it is globally recognised that slavery and rape are crimes, whereas not so with abortion. Even so, most people who accept the use of abortion wish it to be safe, legal and rare. As in, most people don't support the notion of irresponsible patterns of behavior that use abortion as birth control.
    most folks accepted slavery for the vast expanse of human history. It wasn't until Christian churches started the fight to get rid of it that it became "wrong". You seem unwilling or unable to establish a consistent standard.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    most folks accepted slavery for the vast expanse of human history. It wasn't until Christian churches started the fight to get rid of it that it became "wrong". You seem unwilling or unable to establish a consistent standard.
    Lol, as much a Christian institution as any, and you credit them for its demise.

    Christian views on slavery are varied both regionally and historically. Slavery in various forms has been a part of the social environment for much of Christianity's history, spanning well over eighteen centuries. In the early years of Christianity, slavery was a normal feature of the economy and society.......

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris...ews_on_slavery
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Most contentious underlying issue is one of control. Everyone has their own version of how much control anyone else should have on their lives or what they think government should and should not do on their behalf.

    Basically, whatever you want or don't want to do, someone wants government to prevent or force you to do.

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Other or "all of the above" ..
    extremism, I think is the main problem .. similar to immaturity .. so many acting as two-year-olds ...its MY way or the highway .. we need to grow up ..

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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Abortion and SSM should not be political issues. But sadly, they are. I'd say they're the most contentious.

    But gun rights is coming in a very close third.
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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    I'd say right now the most contentious issue is police/citizen relations.
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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You win the abortion fight, every time you birth a baby instead of aborting it.
    Both sides win ever time an unwanted pregnancy does not happen.
    The fewer unwanted pregnancies the fewer abortions that take place.

    In the years 2008 to 2011 abortion numbers fell by 13 percent.


    Researchers credit most of that decline because more women of childbearing years were using long term birth control witch has a much lower failure rate than condoms or birth control pills.

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    Between 2007 and 2012, Colorado saw the highest percentage drop in birth rates among teens 15 to 19 in the country, according to a report released today by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics. During that time, its teen birth rates dropped 39 percent compared to 29 percent nationwide. Abortion rates in the state among teens fell 35 percent between 2009 and 2012 and are falling nationally, as well.

    The CDC’s report comes on the heels of Colorado’s own study, which reported a 40 percent decline in births among teens 15 to 19 from 2009 to 2013.
    The stunning decline in teen birth rates is significant not just for its size, but for its explanation. State public health officials are crediting a sustained, focused effort to offer low-income women free or low-cost long-acting reversible contraception, that is, intrauterine devices or implants. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative, supported by a $23 million anonymous donation, provided more than 30,000 IUDs or implants to women served by the state’s 68 family-planning clinics. The state’s analysis suggests the initiative was responsible for three-quarters of the decline in the state’s teen birth rates.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/s...n-pregnancies/
    Last edited by minnie616; 04-09-15 at 11:16 AM.
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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think at the end of the day, it comes down to religion. The left are anti-Christian, and they are picking away at traditional Christianity one issue at a time: gay marriage, abortion, drug laws, government paid contraception, etc.

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    There are many mainline Protestant churches that are pro choice.
    Over 40 denominations and religious groups are pro choice and are members of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.

    Here is a list of the denominations and groups from the RCRC website :

    http://rcrc.org/homepage/about/coalition-council/
    Last edited by minnie616; 04-09-15 at 11:26 AM.
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    Re: What is the most contentious issue in American politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Both sides win ever time an unwanted pregnancy does not happen.
    The fewer unwanted pregnancies the fewer abortions that take place.

    In the years 2008 to 2011 abortion numbers fell by 13 percent.


    Researchers credit most of that decline because more women of childbearing years were using long term birth control witch has a much lower failure rate than condoms or birth control pills.

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    The simple policy that led America’s biggest drop in teen birth rates - The Washington Post
    I know. I was just making the point to cp that when Christians are opposed to legal issues, that the best they can do is refrain from it themselves.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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