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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Of course they were concentration camps. People were locked up in adequate conditions, given little food, and forced to live in those spaces without cause. Continuing to deny it makes you look like a revisionist.
    no .and you cant compare it to holocaust experienced by jews..........you cant learn everything by means of google
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    according to you I have never been smart
    That is outside of you being an obvious revisionist.
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Again that argument can be made of any war.



    Take territory disputes.. done because one side does not like the other side being in a certain place. Genocide?

    And you cant say in this case of the Armenians that the intent was to kill them all off, simply because of the amount of Armenians left after the fact in the once Ottoman Empire. That there could be over 100k Armenians in the capital of the Ottoman Empire in 1921 kinda shows that. Drive them into exile sure, but that aint genocide..if it was, then the west committed genocide against the German people after WW2 when they took Prussia from Germany and forced millions of Germans to leave their historical home land and many died on the process.

    That is why I say we have to be careful in using the "Genocide" claim, since it can be used against anyone. The formation of Israel? Genocide against Palestinians. Would you accept that? It aint no different than what happened to the Armenians.
    I get what you are trying to say, but i just disagree...I am able to make the distinctions, and I am sure you are too.
    Territorial disputes? No, not necessarily, Genocide usually happens internally, inside a nation. Not two nations at war with each other( it can, but not--usually). Two nations having territorial disputes is not genocide... or a nation wanting more land, or desiring land.... the MAIN motivator is what makes the distinction.
    Genocide usually happens in a cultural war/revolution or a scape goat.... a lot of wars do not fall under that distinction.

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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That is outside of you being an obvious revisionist.
    your ignorant posts make me look like einstein
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    no .and you cant compare it to holocaust experienced by jews..........
    Of course it is a genocide. Continuing to deny what the Ottoman Empire did just makes you look like a bigger revisionist at this point. What you're trying to argue in terms of the Nazis is pretty funny though. Apparently, it's only a genocide if it's comparable to that experience by the Jews? Well hmmm. The Rwandan genocide only lasted 30 days! I guess it can't be compared to the 6 years that the Jews had so it's not a genocide! And I guess Ethiopia's Red Terror can't be a genocide either because there were only 30K deaths! No Medusa, that's not how evidence of a genocide is determined.
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    your ignorant posts make me look like einstein
    Says the person who won't even admit that the Ottoman Empire created concentration camps for the Armenians.
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Of course it is a genocide. Continuing to deny what the Ottoman Empire did just makes you look like a bigger revisionist at this point. What you're trying to argue in terms of the Nazis is pretty funny though. Apparently, it's only a genocide if it's comparable to that experience by the Jews? Well hmmm. The Rwandan genocide only lasted 30 days! I guess it can't be compared to the 6 years that the Jews had so it's not a genocide! And I guess Ethiopia's Red Terror can't be a genocide either because there were only 30K deaths! No Medusa, that's not how evidence of a genocide is determined.
    we didnt burn anyone

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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Says the person who won't even admit that the Ottoman Empire created concentration camps for the Armenians.
    you are smarter one ,I am stupid

    however you dont know more about it than me
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    we didnt burn anyone

    Who the hell is we? This is why your revisionism fails. You weren't even alive in that period and the empire dissolved nearly 100 years ago. What the Ottoman Empire did do was conduct a policy that directly led to the death of 1.5 million people. That is in fact a genocide.
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    Re: Did the Ottoman Empire Commit Genocide Against the Armenians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you are smarter one ,I am stupid

    however you dont know more about it than me
    Yet here we are with you denying a concentration camp, and I having evidence that it indeed was. It isn't looking too good.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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