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Thread: Can Obama Defend The People?

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    I'm gonna stop you right there. To this day, this has been the most peaceful time in recorded human history.
    Except for Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Kenya, The Philippines, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Israel, France, I'm probably missing something, excuse me.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    I'm gonna stop you right there. To this day, this has been the most peaceful time in recorded human history.
    Greetings, CMPancake.

    With all the trouble spots around the world, how long can it last? All it took to start WW1 was one man shooting the Archduke of Austria-Hungary.

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Depends on the situation.

    Regarding Yemen, I'm perfectly fine with the Saudis taking the steps to clean up their own back yard. They've been neck deep in all this garbage for a while, and it's about damn time they took care of the mess.

    Regarding Boko Haram, that's a situation I think a small boots-on-the-ground presence could do wonders. These guys appear to be pretty bush league, and they could be disposed of without inciting a sectarian free-for-all.

    Regarding ISIS in Syria and Iraq, that's something that we'll need a multinational coalition to deal with, including airstrikes, specops maneuvers and cooperation with "friendly" groups like the Kurds. However, the problem there is that once ISIS is gone, the next group of nutters is just going to take their place. That area is so rife with sectarian divides and religious fanaticism that I'm at a loss regarding how to pacify it. And regardless of Obama's proclamation that Iraq was "stable" or some of our conservative brethren's insistence that everything would be just fine and dandy if we still had 50,000 American troops standing atop that ****pile, that place was never stable and won't be for quite some time, American boots on the ground or no.

    That said, I don't think the responsibility for all of this stuff falls on Obama alone. The guy is the President of the United States, not the chief of the World Police.
    I say leave the locals to deal with ALL OF IT. If they need humanitarian or peace keeping assistance (once the fighting stops) - fine. Otherwise, let them fight it out.

    NONE of it is America's business.

    And all it is doing is making things MUCH worse.


    Look what America has done in the Middle East?

    She interfered in Iraq. Result? Iraq is a complete mess and is so weak that a pathetic group of about 10,000 troops with zero air power over ran half the country in a few weeks.

    She interfered in Libya. Result? Libya is a complete mess and has turned into little more then a bunch of 'warlords' fighting for power.

    She interfered in Afghanistan. Result? Afghanistan is (still) a complete mess and will probably revert back to Taliban control once America leaves completely.


    And all these missions cost American lives, TONS of money America does not have and only made the Middle East/Afghanistan more unstable.

    'Mission Accomplished' ???
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    How in the hell did all these crappy posts about Obama not being Kenyan and Obama being born in America make their way into this thread? "slaughtering Kenyans" in the OP doesn't mean Obama is Kenyan. Does anyone actually read a newspaper or pay attention to what's going on in the world before coming on this board and spewing knee jerk garbage?

    To the OP. Of course Obama can defend the people. The question is, what is his idea of "defend", and how far is he willing to go?
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The Birthers believe a lot of things but they can't prove any of them.






    If anyone has any proof to the contrary, let's see it.

    The clock is ticking.

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    correct... I am a black American just like a white American...not African or European
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    he went far enough to take out bin laden when military leaders thought it was very dangerous and the percentage was low for a good kill
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not sure why so many posters are so hellbent on splitting those hairs.
    You know how some right wingers are.
    "I am not among those who fear the people. They and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1816 "[F]acts are before ideas." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1882

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