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Thread: Can Obama Defend The People?

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...which makes him black; legally and practically.
    Is the point that unless you have completely undiluted Sub-Saharan African ancestry, you're not really black? Nobody's exactly rushing in to clear this up for me.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 04-05-15 at 12:34 PM.

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And that video was just concentrated on a specific part of the Middle East. Now just imagine if it had encapsulated every region on earth over the past six thousand years.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Possibly.
    Not possibly. Legally.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Well, certainly the customer is not an N-word.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Is the point that unless you have completely undiluted Sub-Saharan African ancestry, you're not really black? Nobody's exactly rushing in to clear this up for me.
    Opposite. We have long held the 'one drop rule' which says if you have ANY black, you are black.

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    Imagine a person boarding a city bus in Memphis in 1957. If he sits if the front and no one thinks anything of it, he is white. If he told to sit in the back, he is black.

    Its an ugly standard, but its the standard we have lived with in this country for most of its history. If you look black then you are black. There is no "half-black", except to racists that don't want to acknowledge that we have a black president.

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Course many who self identify as white claim a single drop of negra blood means you is a negra...

    The laws in the Dirty South said so, many folks still firmly believe it- so much for trying to make a black guy another race when it suits the whine.
    Oh, give it a rest. And the "Dirty South"? You've just revealed far more about yourself than you probably should've.

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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, the President self-identifies as "black," but his mother was Caucasian, and he is of mixed race.
    Barack Obama is black, the end.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm curious, Kobie, what you think the President should do.
    Depends on the situation.

    Regarding Yemen, I'm perfectly fine with the Saudis taking the steps to clean up their own back yard. They've been neck deep in all this garbage for a while, and it's about damn time they took care of the mess.

    Regarding Boko Haram, that's a situation I think a small boots-on-the-ground presence could do wonders. These guys appear to be pretty bush league, and they could be disposed of without inciting a sectarian free-for-all.

    Regarding ISIS in Syria and Iraq, that's something that we'll need a multinational coalition to deal with, including airstrikes, specops maneuvers and cooperation with "friendly" groups like the Kurds. However, the problem there is that once ISIS is gone, the next group of nutters is just going to take their place. That area is so rife with sectarian divides and religious fanaticism that I'm at a loss regarding how to pacify it. And regardless of Obama's proclamation that Iraq was "stable" or some of our conservative brethren's insistence that everything would be just fine and dandy if we still had 50,000 American troops standing atop that ****pile, that place was never stable and won't be for quite some time, American boots on the ground or no.

    That said, I don't think the responsibility for all of this stuff falls on Obama alone. The guy is the President of the United States, not the chief of the World Police.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Barack Obama is black, the end.
    I'm not sure why so many posters are so hellbent on splitting those hairs.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Depends on the situation.

    Regarding Yemen, I'm perfectly fine with the Saudis taking the steps to clean up their own back yard. They've been neck deep in all this garbage for a while, and it's about damn time they took care of the mess.
    Here lies the problem "Four months ago, Obama called Yemen’s war on terror a success. Now the Yemeni government may fall."

    Regarding Boko Haram, that's a situation I think a small boots-on-the-ground presence could do wonders. These guys appear to be pretty bush league, and they could be disposed of without inciting a sectarian free-for-all.
    You mean like Obama saying isis are the JV's. According to the death toll by Boko its increasing and spreading.

    Regarding ISIS in Syria and Iraq, that's something that we'll need a multinational coalition to deal with, including airstrikes, specops maneuvers and cooperation with "friendly" groups like the Kurds. However, the problem there is that once ISIS is gone, the next group of nutters is just going to take their place. That area is so rife with sectarian divides and religious fanaticism that I'm at a loss regarding how to pacify it. And regardless of Obama's proclamation that Iraq was "stable" or some of our conservative brethren's insistence that everything would be just fine and dandy if we still had 50,000 American troops standing atop that ****pile, that place was never stable and won't be for quite some time, American boots on the ground or no.
    It was stable until Obama pulled all the troops out. Unlike Afghanistan where he is leaving troops to keep it stable.

    That said, I don't think the responsibility for all of this stuff falls on Obama alone. The guy is the President of the United States, not the chief of the World Police.
    Agree, but he has no leadership skills. Period.

    He calls ISIS the JV squad, far from it.
    He pulls troops out of Iraq and that allowed ISIS to move in. At the same time he and Biden called Iraq a great accomplishment for this administration.
    He throws down the Red Line and Syria walks over it.
    Putin tells Obama to jump and how high
    He flip flopped on Iran with no this and that, now it's all OK this and that.
    He calls Yemen a success story, far from it.
    According to Obama there is no religious war, yet Islamic terrorist are singling out Christians and cutting heads off and Somali Militants separating Christian from Muslim students and killing the Christians, 147 in one pop.

    I could go on but the point is there is no leadership or clarity from Obama on anything on foreign policy, hell even on domestic policies, like you can keep your doctor and you can keep your insurance etc BS . To make matters worse our allies have no clue what he is about. And our adversaries know he has no spine. And we now have the middle east in flames and Iran on the march, all the while Obama is giving Iran the green light to make nuks.
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    Re: Can Obama Defend The People?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Kobie.

    Not like we're seeing today, Kobie.
    I'm gonna stop you right there. To this day, this has been the most peaceful time in recorded human history.
    The risk I took was calculated but man, am I bad at math.

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