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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JF. What did Martin Luther King have to say?
    Do not know, but I am prepared to be enlightened.
    And if I could get rid of that extra 10 - well maybe 20 lbs would be more truthful, I would be lightened and fit in some old clothes that mysteriously shrank.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Even a fairly cursory reading of the founding documents, letters, debates, and other writings the Founders left for us shows a very clear intent that this nation be guided and strengthened by moral principles that they believed were ordered by the "Christian" God even as they strongly believed no person must be compelled or required to be Christian or religious. They did not believe the Constitution would work for anything other than a religious and moral people.

    George Washington: "While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
    --The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.

    "Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."
    --John Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, excerpt from a letter to Thomas Jefferson.

    "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
    --The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.

    John Hancock: "Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
    --History of the United States of America, Vol. II, p. 229.

    Benjamin Franklin: "Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped. . .

    . . ."As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see. . . .
    Benjamin Franklin wrote this in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University on March 9, 1790.

    James Monroe: "When we view the blessings with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we possess of handing them down unimpaired to our latest posterity, our attention is irresistibly drawn to the source from whence they flow. Let us then, unite in offering our most grateful acknowledgments for these blessings to the Divine Author of All Good."
    --Monroe made this statement in his 2nd Annual Message to Congress, November 16, 1818.

    Benjamin Rush: "The gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wisest rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations!"
    --The Autobiography of Benjamin Rush, pp. 165-166.

    John Witherspoon: "While we give praise to God, the Supreme Disposer of all events, for His interposition on our behalf, let us guard against the dangerous error of trusting in, or boasting of, an arm of flesh ... If your cause is just, if your principles are pure, and if your conduct is prudent, you need not fear the multitude of opposing hosts.
    --Sermon at Princeton University, "The Dominion of Providence over the Passions of Men," May 17, 1776.

    Patrick Henry: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
    --The Trumpet Voice of Freedom: Patrick Henry of Virginia, p. iii.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not know what to answer, really. The country is not a religious country in the sense that the government idis not allowed to be. Just the opposite. But it does have a very large and vocal group of religious congregations. Much stronger than in other oecd countries.
    But there is also a large group of people who see themselves as atheists and are antagonistic of the religious. And recently even constitutional rights thus far protected are being revoked.

    so what's the buzz?
    Don't know - Just came up before in discussions on other boards. Reason I went to the horses mouth as they say and see what people from the US think.
    Though I am sure many secretly want to be Canadian.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You might try reading some sources other than your usual
    The escape route for these kinds of arguments is:

    A) They're not being Christians if they are killing people!
    B) Muslims kill more people!

    That's how it works in DP. Only 1.2 billion Muslims can be associated with the crazy stuff a small minority does. Christians are oppressed victims who never get to have their way about anything.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    I know this'll really annoy the Libs here, but yes we are a Christian nation whether we like it or not. Our allies and enemies alike consider us a Christian nation. Some are our enemies in the first place for precisely that reason. Our Constitution would not be possible without the influence of English civil law, the whig-English idea of liberty grounded in the notion that rights are unalienable and not 'granted' by humans but endowed from the Creator, or the radical tendencies of the Christian sects that sailed across the Atlantic looking for a better life away from unjust monarchy. Yes, we are a nation where religious freedom is protected, but that's only possible because at our conception we codified into laws the Christian-whig ideas of the time.

    We are overwhelmingly Christian nominally and one might argue that Christianity plays a role in all facets of public decision making, cultural mores, and social norms, because these were all formed within an entirely Christian framework. That's not to say other religions have not influenced an overarching American culture, but they're more minor and subtle, and manifest more in enclaves than in popular culture.

    Attempts to down-play the influence Christianity has played on forming America, shaping its image and binding a set of values we can identify with, are done with obvious goals of robbing us of our heritage and invoking guilt.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    It's a Christian majority country, it is not ruled by Christians. In fact, the Constitution basically says that it is not a Christian country.

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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Categorically not.

    It is not a Theocratic state, therefore cannot be considered a "Christian Nation".

    Those that push that particular mantra often have a nefarious reason behind it, you look at all of those on the fringe right that really, really push that, there's an Anti-Abortion, Anti-Gay tinge to alot of it that is primarily theocratically motivated and it's downright disturbing.
    Right, because wanting to protect the most innocent among us is soooo "nefarious".

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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You might try reading some sources other than your usual
    Greetings, Somerville.

    Didn't the terrorist muslim group Boko Haram just commit the deadliest massacre in history of Christians in Nigeria, with 2000 feared dead? Aren't they bragging that they intend to hit Maiduguru in Nigeria next, with 200,000 Christians at risk of being slaughtered? Aren't they the group that abducted 300 schoolgirls a while back to use as slaves and sex objects, and no one has found them yet? Perhaps the Christian Militias are tired of being terrorized in Africa and are finally fighting back! We're seeing the same thing happen in the ME with countries that normally don't get along with each other joining together in the fight against ISIS! It's about time, IMO!

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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Don't know - Just came up before in discussions on other boards. Reason I went to the horses mouth as they say and see what people from the US think.
    Though I am sure many secretly want to be Canadian.
    How about dual citizenship? I could go for that.
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    Re: Is the US a Christian country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It's a Christian majority country, it is not ruled by Christians. In fact, the Constitution basically says that it is not a Christian country.
    That is correct. The First Amendment makes that abundantly clear as does the main body of the Constitution requiring that there must be no religious test for appointment or election to high office.

    But not being a "Christian country" it nevertheless was founded by people who believed they were following Christian principles and Christian moral precepts and they honestly believed the Constitution would work only for a people who embraced those Christian principles and moral precepts.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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