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Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discrimination?

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That's actually a pretty good explanation. Doesn't that also indicate the strong likelihood of it truly being bigotry rather than religious principle?

In a way, but more it is a matter of convenience and utility and for MOST that does not elevate to personal hatred.

SOMEONE has to be the bad guy. In 10 years it will be some other group. I think that's human nature for any organization.
 
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In a way, but more it is a matter of convenience and utility and for MOST that does not elevate to personal hatred.

SOMEONE has to be the bad guy. In 10 years it will be some other group. I think that's human nature for any organization.

Bigotry is not necessarily hatred. My grandmother was a class A bigot, competing easily with Archie Bunker, but she'd never have hurt or even hated anyone. She just thought she was better than they, didn't want them living nearby, didn't want them at "her" restaurants, shopping centers, grocers, etc.
 
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Oh, I agree. But the reason Huckabee has a platform is because many on Christian right listen to him. Just like they did Jerry Falwell.

Sure, and many blacks listen to Rev. Sharpston. Is he a true leader? Or just someone who runs to the head of parades to then declare he is the leader of it? That's a fair common tactic. Huckabee did not create any Christian's attitude about anything. Rather, he is skilled at declaring he is leading a parade he did not create.

Contempt of homosexuality isn't a uniquely Christian thing, is it? Christianity isn't the source or origins.
 
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Bigotry is not necessarily hatred. My grandmother was a class A bigot, competing easily with Archie Bunker, but she'd never have hurt or even hated anyone. She just thought she was better than they, didn't want them living nearby, didn't want them at "her" restaurants, shopping centers, grocers, etc.

I agree. And likely if in the presence of a black person she likely was completely polite too. Most bigotry is soft bigotry, not proactive hatred.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Many Christians, certainly on the conservative side, are linking the survival of Christianity to their ability to discriminate against gays. They need to discriminate against gays in order to be true Christians.

Nope. Christianity will survive when the pro-gay bullies have been judged immoral and cast into the Lake of Fire.

What I love today is the $266K raised so far for the Memories Pizza place.
 
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If your faith hinges on other people living their lives however they please it isn't a faith worth anyone's time.

You have things that you like and dislike as well as things you are not willing to tolerate.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Nope. Christianity will survive when the pro-gay bullies have been judged immoral and cast into the Lake of Fire. What I love today is the $266K raised so far for the Memories Pizza place.
Yep a bunch of yahoo saps were scammed by your own kind. They never had a request for a pizza wedding cater homo or hetero. They wanted your money and they got it, and didn't have to lift a finger to bake one pie. Y'all are such pliable morons.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Yep a bunch of yahoo saps were scammed by your own kind.

:lamo

That was a scam. I thought the Nigerians were the only ones! :lamo
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Many Christians, certainly on the conservative side, are linking the survival of Christianity to their ability to discriminate against gays. They need to discriminate against gays in order to be true Christians.

No, they just choose not to participate in the gay lifestyle, big difference.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Bigotry is not necessarily hatred. My grandmother was a class A bigot, competing easily with Archie Bunker, but she'd never have hurt or even hated anyone. She just thought she was better than they, didn't want them living nearby, didn't want them at "her" restaurants, shopping centers, grocers, etc.

Do you feel most comfortable being around people that you feel comfortable with? Example if a person has 10 kids living next door would you enjoy that over a couple living there. Who would you rather live by? Do you care when you go to a restaurant and the table next to you has one kid screaming his head off and the other two are at your table staring at you jabbering with a face full spaghetti.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Nope. Christianity will survive when the pro-gay bullies have been judged immoral and cast into the Lake of Fire.

Stop, I can't take any more Christian love.
 
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Stop, I can't take any more Christian love.

Me either.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Do you feel most comfortable being around people that you feel comfortable with? Example if a person has 10 kids living next door would you enjoy that over a couple living there. Who would you rather live by? Do you care when you go to a restaurant and the table next to you has one kid screaming his head off and the other two are at your table staring at you jabbering with a face full spaghetti.

Certainly some person's choices and behaviors bother me, but it's not like I have some imagination that I have a right to have a couple instead of a yard full of screaming kids. I do not have that right regardless of my personal wishes. Do you think somehow you have a right to your wish lists and ideal situations?
 
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Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'



Edit: Why aren't polls auto-selected on this forum so that people don't accidentally post threads without polls?

comments like that are absolutely mentally retarded and if that was really said by Huckleberry . . i mean huckabee, he is a moron for even suggesting that nonsense. Its also stupid to be a politician and go on hate group's radio show like The Family Research Council.

Millions of Christians like myself support equal rights, millioins of us puke at the idea of people thinking FRC represents us in anyway and million of honest, educated objective Christians know "Christianity" is in ZERO danger from equal rights or under attack in any REAL way
 
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Many Christians, certainly on the conservative side, are linking the survival of Christianity to their ability to discriminate against gays. They need to discriminate against gays in order to be true Christians.

and they are severely misguided because millions of us also totally support equal rights
 
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You aren't falling for that line of crap are you? If they were so concerned they'd be wanting to discriminate against all sinners who wanted to purchase their products or services. Since they only get their panties in a wad over SSM and the LGBT community, it's plain ol' bigotry being trussed up. There's no religious basis for it at all, they prove that all by themselves.

As a Christian myself i agree 100%

theres nothign wrong with thinking, saying, preaching, teaching its wrong thats all ok but anybody trying to treat others as second class citizens and violates thier rights or break the law is simply evil and vile. They are by definition a bigot.
 
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Yep a bunch of yahoo saps were scammed by your own kind. They never had a request for a pizza wedding cater homo or hetero. They wanted your money and they got it, and didn't have to lift a finger to bake one pie. Y'all are such pliable morons.

wierd huh... they never has a request to cater any weddings, yet the "tolerant ones" go absolutely bat**** crazy bananas and run them out of business over saying they will deny a service they don't even offer..... amazing show of logic and reason... simply amazing.

as an aside, your claim they wanted anyone's money is false... they didn't set up the gofundme account...Dana Loesch did after all the terrorizing started and they closed up shop.
 
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comments like that are absolutely mentally retarded and if that was really said by Huckleberry . . i mean huckabee, he is a moron for even suggesting that nonsense. Its also stupid to be a politician and go on hate group's radio show like The Family Research Council.

Millions of Christians like myself support equal rights, millioins of us puke at the idea of people thinking FRC represents us in anyway and million of honest, educated objective Christians know "Christianity" is in ZERO danger from equal rights or under attack in any REAL way

I wouldn't even hesitate to say more Christians than not support equal rights for all people, including gay rights.

Just thought I'd make that clear.
 
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Stop, I can't take any more Christian love.

Then next time you're down and out try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER. :)
 
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I wouldn't even hesitate to say more Christians than not support equal rights for all people, including gay rights.

Just thought I'd make that clear.

in my experience id have to agree 100%.
in real life i have seen no evidence that would even suggest otherwise.

So it would have to be either a regional thing, or people that are too embarrassed to admit thier bigotry in real life so they hide it . . .
it seems like its mostly just the extreme nutters and internet people
 
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Yep a bunch of yahoo saps were scammed by your own kind. They never had a request for a pizza wedding cater homo or hetero. They wanted your money and they got it, and didn't have to lift a finger to bake one pie. Y'all are such pliable morons.


They were set up by a news interviewer who posed a hypothetical. It wasn't the pizzeria who dreamed it up.

So your jack-legged spiel above is horse dung. Wise up.
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

Many Christians, certainly on the conservative side, are linking the survival of Christianity to their ability to discriminate against gays. They need to discriminate against gays in order to be true Christians.

No, they're stating catering to a gay wedding goes against their beliefs, if a gay man walked in to one of the bakeries and ordered a cake that said "Happy Birthday Clarence" there would be zero issue.

it's the being involved in a gay marriage that's the problem.

it's like you can't discriminate against blacks, but if you owned a restaurant and the black panthers wanted to come in with assault rifles in uniform and screaming slogans, you don't have the cater to that....
 
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It's dumb as hell because there are tons of gay Christians and even in places where there is no legal discrimination (canada, sweden), there are still churches.

They have lost this culture war no matter what, so a comment like that is only saying "we've not only lost but we're irrelevant"
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

They were set up by a news interviewer who posed a hypothetical. It wasn't the pizzeria who dreamed it up.

So your jack-legged spiel above is horse dung. Wise up.

Yeah right the reporter happened to venture to this small town pizza place that's not even in the phone book and doesn't even cater weddings to ask that

It's called being in cahoots
 
Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

As a Christian myself i agree 100%

theres nothign wrong with thinking, saying, preaching, teaching its wrong thats all ok but anybody trying to treat others as second class citizens and violates thier rights or break the law is simply evil and vile. They are by definition a bigot.

I don't agree with these laws, on the other hand, don't you think people have a right to insulate themselves from things that the feel are wrong?
 
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