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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) well what you are saying isnt exactly true, they do rest on peoples judgement but those things were made into a constitution and laws and rights . . . . so its a little more in depth than that. ALso why do you find the constitution, rights and laws troubling?

    what is your solution, anything they are based on is going to come down to people in some way

    2.) i dont see the "shaky" part . . . in 2016 it is very sound
    but again how would you possible make it unshaky if constitutions, rights and laws dont do that for you?
    You say you don't see the shaky part, but they were doing it J. It was real. That is the world that my parents actually lived in. And for my grandparents, it was way worse.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

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    that would imply i got this idea from someone else. It's entirely my own i assure you

    as opposed to all the hateful biblical tirades you spew on here. Theists have been plagiarizing from that for thousands of years
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You say you don't see the shaky part, but they were doing it J. It was real. That is the world that my parents actually lived in. And for my grandparents, it was way worse.
    yes i know and they fixed it, and are still fixing it and now adding sexual orientation to it is even further fixing it this is why i dont see the shaky part. especially for race.
    Gays WERE on the shakey part, now its probably more like a wobble and soon it will be a more secure footing, heck this summer SSM is going to go national.

    ALso you didnt answer one question

    what is your solution, anything they are based on is going to come down to people in some way
    how would you possible make it unshaky if constitutions, rights and laws dont do that for you?
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't agree with these laws, on the other hand, don't you think people have a right to insulate themselves from things that the feel are wrong?
    Yes, if I don't like you or for that matter anything you do I have a right to insulate myself from you. Period

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'



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    That's total garbage and most Christians that can actually use their brains (not fogged by an extremist dogma) dont buy into such crap.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Ambiguous- well many would fit that, same as large numbers meets the criteria
    When it comes down to it Wiki is well??????????????????
    I didn't quote Wiki because it is statistical proof, but because they also use the term 'many Christians' and outline similar qualities to what I've described.
    Not asking you to rush, if time permits look around.
    If not I am fine with that as well.
    I probably won't unless seriously challenged. I just don't think the term 'many Christians' is really in dispute.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Tsk, tsk...

    Well, your "Christian" friend obviously never heard of Luke 13:3. Because if by the time she dies she hasn't repented of any gay sex sins she's committed she won't have to like her eternal fate.
    People use religion to suit their agenda and their personality. If they are of good character and intent, they will focus on the positive scripture and output a positive message. You are of poor character, so you focus on the punishment / suffering aspect of God, and put forth a hateful message.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    People use religion to suit their agenda and their personality. If they are of good character and intent, they will focus on the positive scripture and output a positive message. You are of poor character, so you focus on the punishment / suffering aspect of God, and put forth a hateful message.
    I knew you weren't going to embrace Luke 13:3 ("But unless you repent, you too will perish") for your gay friends. Why do you think Jesus warned people to repent?

    You're the one patting the gay sex sinners on the back telling them they've done nothing wrong - that they don't need to repent. Then they wind up in Hell after the Judgment (1 Cor. 6:9-10, Rev. 21:8, etc.). With friends like you who needs enemies?

    I tell people the truth and the wise repent and receive eternal life.

    And that's what's wrong with your politically correct moral relativism. It sends people to Hell. And I'm the bad guy?
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    You'll need to define many.


    Many=More than a few, less than a multitude.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    I knew you weren't going to embrace Luke 13:3 ("But unless you repent, you too will perish") for your gay friends. Why do you think Jesus warned people to repent?
    Well, Jesus was a progressive and a reformer (of his own religion) and had an evolving opinion about many social issues. And since Jesus set up the laws by which people are governed, it makes sense that he has since evolved on gay issues.

    Does he still command that children be put to death for being disobedient? Of course not.

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