Page 7 of 31 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 310

Thread: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discrimination?

  1. #61
    Sage
    Born Free's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Sonny and Nice
    Last Seen
    07-21-17 @ 12:48 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    6,164

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Certainly some person's choices and behaviors bother me, but it's not like I have some imagination that I have a right to have a couple instead of a yard full of screaming kids. I do not have that right regardless of my personal wishes. Do you think somehow you have a right to your wish lists and ideal situations?
    No of course not. But to keep a neighborhood from conflict they have zoning laws, that may prohibit an amount of dogs for an example etc. If you don't like a screaming kid at the next table as you are wanting a quite evening dinner you have the choice to discriminate against that restaurant and not come back. But I do have the right to not go where I feel uncomfortable nor would I want them to infringe on my space and in that case I would move or leave the restaurant etc. You go to a movie and there is a screaming kid and people talking on their cell, yet you paid to see the movie in a comfortable setting. Does the theater have any right to throw them out or you to jump up and say "shut the **** up". So there are rights to certain conduct and we have laws that are enforced to keep those laws. We also have restaurants that don't allow no shoes or no shirts etc. This goes to personal conduct.

    This of course has nothing to do with color or whatever. But if a business has certain beliefs of personal conduct, does that business have the right to not service that person?
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
    Liberals - Tax, Borrow, Spend, and Give Free Stuff
    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

  2. #62
    Living in Gods country



    JANFU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    14,983

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Nope. Christianity will survive when the pro-gay bullies have been judged immoral and cast into the Lake of Fire.

    What I love today is the $266K raised so far for the Memories Pizza place.
    266 K - would feed a lot of people. And where does it go........................
    What a waste.
    Lake of fire.
    That is so................................................ Old Testament.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

  3. #63
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    42,161

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    1.)Well, lets look at this from another angle. Let's use an example from an earlier post.
    2.) Let's suppose that I felt so strongly about adultery that I wanted to insulate myself and my family from the influence of people that engage in the practice.
    3.) How is it exactly infringing on someone's rights if I refused to serve such people in my business?
    1.) ok, im game for any scenerios
    2.) that alone isnt illegal discrimaintion or infringing on rights . . it depends on your actions though
    3.) well in this case it probably would not . . "adulterers" dont fit protected classes . . . . you "MIGHT" be ok
    gender, race, religion, sex and in some areas sexual orientation does fit

    and if you illegally discriminate based on those you are in fact infringing on rights, breaking the law and by definition are a bigot
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  4. #64
    Living in Gods country



    JANFU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    14,983

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    I wonder if they would serve a Petafile Priest.
    Do you have something positive to add?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

  5. #65
    Sage
    Logicman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:37 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    12,868

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah right the reporter happened to venture to this small town pizza place that's not even in the phone book and doesn't even cater weddings to ask that

    It's called being in cahoots
    You haven't even researched it have you? You just drink your Kool Aid and spit out another bs lie.

    RFRA: How A Local TV Station Ruined A Family Business | The Daily Caller

    Alyssa Marino is a reporter with ABC 57 News in South Bend, Indiana. With her state in the center of a hurricane over religious freedom, Marino must’ve thought she’d had a coup – a devout Christian business owner willing to speak on camera about their religious beliefs and how it impacts the operations of that business.

    So how did Marino find Memories Pizza? Brian Dorman, the ABC 57 anchor, opened the broadcast by saying, “We went into small towns tonight for reaction to the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. We found one business just 20 miles away from a welcoming South Bend with a much different view.” (Emphasis added.)

    ABC 57 instigated the interview, not the pizza restaurant.

    So enjoy your Kool Aid. LOL!
    "Progressives aren't really progressive. They're regressive, all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah." - author unknown

  6. #66
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    42,161

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    My personal feelings is that there is a stronger case to be made against such discrimination based on the notion that it violates the religious principles of tolerance and mercy when people are eager to condemn people in this way. If you really analyze things strictly no one perfectly follows religious principles. As such we all are full of sinful tendencies and therefore we need to practice tolerance, mercy and try to show love to one another.

    As far as rights go, it seems to me like you may be discriminating against a person by denying them service at your place of business because you think they have some fault with respect to religious principles, but on the other hand you are violating a persons rights to practice their religion as they see fit if you make them serve such a person, no matter how misguided their understanding of religion might be.

    Just saying.
    as you word it people factually do NOT have that right . . .its not a blanket right . . . and it certainly ends when it infringes on others . . .
    we already restrict some religious things like cannibalism, pedophilia etc . . . its nothing new and people have made claims of religious backing to discriminate before. Hell a VERY easy case could be made that women are seen as lessers in many religions but they still have rights and in the public realm outside of church/personal relationships they are equals in legality
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  7. #67
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) ok, im game for any scenerios
    2.) that alone isnt illegal discrimaintion or infringing on rights . . it depends on your actions though
    3.) well in this case it probably would not . . "adulterers" dont fit protected classes . . . . you "MIGHT" be ok
    gender, race, religion, sex and in some areas sexual orientation does fit

    and if you illegally discriminate based on those you are in fact infringing on rights, breaking the law and by definition are a bigot
    Well J like I said, I don't agree with those laws and I think they are a big mistake. But that said, as a black person, what I find troubling is that I can find no justification for my position in terms of legal rights outside of some subjective value judgements that are made by whomever is in power at a particular point in history. I suppose what I am searching for is something stronger than that, but I have yet to find it.

    Just saying.

  8. #68
    Sage
    chromium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A2
    Last Seen
    06-05-17 @ 09:53 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    16,969

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You haven't even researched it have you? You just drink your Kool Aid and spit out another bs lie.

    RFRA: How A Local TV Station Ruined A Family Business | The Daily Caller

    Alyssa Marino is a reporter with ABC 57 News in South Bend, Indiana. With her state in the center of a hurricane over religious freedom, Marino must’ve thought she’d had a coup – a devout Christian business owner willing to speak on camera about their religious beliefs and how it impacts the operations of that business.

    So how did Marino find Memories Pizza? Brian Dorman, the ABC 57 anchor, opened the broadcast by saying, “We went into small towns tonight for reaction to the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. We found one business just 20 miles away from a welcoming South Bend with a much different view.” (Emphasis added.)

    ABC 57 instigated the interview, not the pizza restaurant.

    So enjoy your Kool Aid. LOL!
    I've no more reason to believe that than anything the pizza shop claims

  9. #69
    Professor
    kjwins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Last Seen
    07-01-17 @ 01:15 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,898

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Do you have something positive to add?
    Serious question man. I'm catholic, & we had one of these Priest at our church. Plus the hypocrisy of these people is unreal. I could see them being OK with it because he's a Priest

  10. #70
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    42,161

    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    1.)Well J like I said, I don't agree with those laws and I think they are a big mistake. But that said, as a black person, what I find troubling is that I can find no justification for my position in terms of legal rights outside of some subjective value judgements that are made by whomever is in power at a particular point in history. I suppose what I am searching for is something stronger than that, but I have yet to find it.

    Just saying.
    you confused me now

    you dont agree with what laws and what isnt good enough? the 14th amendment, civil rights, equal rights and anti-discrimination laws?
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

Page 7 of 31 FirstFirst ... 5678917 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •