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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No, they're stating catering to a gay wedding goes against their beliefs, if a gay man walked in to one of the bakeries and ordered a cake that said "Happy Birthday Clarence" there would be zero issue.
    What if an adulterer asked to have a cake made? Assuming that the adulterer made his sin known. Keeping in mind that, on the Biblical sin scale, adultery is far worse than gay sex.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    These people are not Christians, their Nazi's. Jesus hung out with hookers, gays & misfits. He didn't give a rats ass who or what you were.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't agree with these laws, on the other hand, don't you think people have a right to insulate themselves from things that the feel are wrong?

    youd have to define insult but in general yes, of course, as long as it doesnt break the law or infringe on others rights. Theres no special rules for my religion in society i have to play by the same rules as everybody else.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What if an adulterer asked to have a cake made? Assuming that the adulterer made his sin known. Keeping in mind that, on the Biblical sin scale, adultery is far worse than gay sex.
    Well I dunno I'm not a bakery owner.

    I would serve the adulterer though, I would not create a cake to knowingly honor such a relationship. then again that's just because I'm against affairs as destroying families, not so much the religious aspect.

    but I'm sure if the "Aldulterer" went to a Christian bakery and said I want a cake for my secret lover for when I tell my wife i'm working late, they would object to that to.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    youd have to define insult but in general yes, of course, as long as it doesnt break the law or infringe on others rights. Theres no special rules for my religion in society i have to play by the same rules as everybody else.
    Well, lets look at this from another angle. Let's use an example from an earlier post. Let's suppose that I felt so strongly about adultery that I wanted to insulate myself and my family from the influence of people that engage in the practice. How is it exactly infringing on someone's rights if I refused to serve such people in my business?

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    You do know that many Churches are splitting apart due to this- And that includes conservative & some would say Liberal Churches as well.
    I would like to see some numbers on your point?
    and the reaction from huckabee and other fanatics is to do MORE discriminating

    it is their fault they're in this position, no sympathy from me

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Then next time you're down and out try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER.
    Funny story. When I was down on my luck, and without a friend, a Christian helped me. She gave me my first real job and served as moral support until she passed away. While you, who claim to be a Christian, would punch down on people with differences or disadvantages, a true Christian would listen to the positive scripture and lift that person up.

    Oh, and that Christian who helped me was gay.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    I wonder if they would serve a Petafile Priest.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    My personal feelings is that there is a stronger case to be made against such discrimination based on the notion that it violates the religious principles of tolerance and mercy when people are eager to condemn people in this way. If you really analyze things strictly no one perfectly follows religious principles. As such we all are full of sinful tendencies and therefore we need to practice tolerance, mercy and try to show love to one another.

    As far as rights go, it seems to me like you may be discriminating against a person by denying them service at your place of business because you think they have some fault with respect to religious principles, but on the other hand you are violating a persons rights to practice their religion as they see fit if you make them serve such a person, no matter how misguided their understanding of religion might be.

    Just saying.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'm not sure why I'm held to this ambiguous standard. From Wikipedia:



    I'm open to other ways of phrasing 'large numbers of Christians'.
    Ambiguous- well many would fit that, same as large numbers meets the criteria
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