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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I think you missed the point I was making entirely, but I don't respond to chopped up posts like that, most especially when they destroy the context of the post, so I'll just agree to disagree. I am quite secure in my own convictions on this subject.
    You context wasn't "destroyed" in anyway that just silly. My post would be the same to you whether I separated your post or not, it was only so you know what I'm answering. There was a poster on the other board that always made claims like that as soon as he couldn't defend his posts. If you like I can report my exact same answers without separating your pot and I bet you still dodge it. I didn't misse your point at all I just simply proved there's no support for it. You can be as secure in fear tactics if you like but that won't change that what you stated has very little to no support. When gays start trying to create laws that infringe on my rights or hider my religion or religious freedoms let me know.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    You context wasn't "destroyed" in anyway that just silly. My post would be the same to you whether I separated your post or not, it was only so you know what I'm answering. There was a poster on the other board that always made claims like that as soon as he couldn't defend his posts. If you like I can report my exact same answers without separating your pot and I bet you still dodge it. I didn't misse your point at all I just simply proved there's no support for it. You can be as secure in fear tactics if you like but that won't change that what you stated has very little to no support. When gays start trying to create laws that infringe on my rights or hider my religion or religious freedoms let me know.
    Ah, once my opponent goes pure ad hominem I know I won the argument. Do have a nice afternoon and evening Layla. We'll probably meet again on another topic on another day.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Do you really feel the need to attack the Bible to justify homosexual sin?

    But to answer the question, the Bible we have today has various transcription errors, or rearrangement of words, or dots and tittle issues, but nothing major to the point that the fundamental truths of the Bible have been compromised. We know this because we have the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls (like the 'Great Isaiah Scroll' dated to about 150 BC) and other manuscript evidence that gives us good confidence of the divine inspiration of the scriptures.


    For instance, ALL FOUR GOSPELS and various epistles verify the resurrection of Christ. That's preponderance of the evidence.
    And many were written well after the Crucifixion were they not?
    Many translation as well?
    And there is a world of discussion or differing opinions on many verses in the bible. Is that not correct?

    And I was not attacking the Bible.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Ah, once my opponent goes pure ad hominem I know I won the argument. Do have a nice afternoon and evening Layla. We'll probably meet again on another topic on another day.
    That's what I thought run away in defeat. I'm sure we will and you'll make up excuses again when your post gets it ass handed to itself.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Most Christian people want to be Christian without being harassed for it or being discriminated against for it. They do not wish to have to accept or embrace values they in good conscience cannot accept or participate in. That doesn't mean they are denying anybody else the right to accept or embrace different values.
    Substitute 'Christian' for 'racist' and 'gay' for 'black'. Try it and see if it's okay.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And many were written well after the Crucifixion were they not?
    As opposed to before the crucifixion?

    FYI here's how scores of scholars date the Gospels and New Testament - all within the probable lifetimes of the traditional authors.

    A Chronological Order of The New Testament Books

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    Many translation as well?
    All confirm the resurrection.

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And there is a world of discussion or differing opinions on many verses in the bible. Is that not correct?

    And I was not attacking the Bible.
    Yeah, you are attacking the Bible.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Substitute 'Christian' for 'racist' and 'gay' for 'black'. Try it and see if it's okay.
    The sentence specified what Christians want. The one immediately preceding it, which you chose to omit--was that on purpose or was that a dishonest intent to change the subject?--used identical language except it specified what gay people want. Do you disagree with what I said they want? (I am pretty sure that most racists and most black people want pretty much the same thing though.)
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    As opposed to before the crucifixion?

    FYI here's how scores of scholars date the Gospels and New Testament - all within the probable lifetimes of the traditional authors.

    A Chronological Order of The New Testament Books



    All confirm the resurrection.



    Yeah, you are attacking the Bible.
    Then why do the books of mark, Matthew, Luke and John have different tones and biases in them?
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't know how you would do that in the sentence you quoted. The sentence specified what Christians want and what gays want. Do you disagree with what I said they want? (I am pretty sure that most racists and most black people want pretty much the same thing though.)
    You said that Christians should be left alone and not be forced to participate in gay activities, or be discriminated against for discriminating against gays. So if they have a business, they should be able to deny service to people that offend their Christian values. And gays are offensive to them.

    Now that I've extrapolated your sentence, you can apply the substitution of racists and blacks.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    As opposed to before the crucifixion?

    FYI here's how scores of scholars date the Gospels and New Testament - all within the probable lifetimes of the traditional authors.

    A Chronological Order of The New Testament Books



    All confirm the resurrection.

    Yeah, you are attacking the Bible.
    No I am not.
    Is that because we disagree on gays rights. Possibly? Don't know & don't care. I know my intent for the original post, you do not.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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