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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If you want to do that, stay in your room or move into the amazon, not open a freaking business to the public...oops i mean the public except for those homos
    Geeee that is my right as you point out, as for you you can hang out with Charley Mansion for all I care.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you are free to disagree but you havent given one solution that is better, ANd the word were is still accurate because even though some still do it, its 1000X better. ANd it wasnt MY word it was YOURS. If it wasnt better you wouldnt have used it yourself. Its never going away.
    2.) this is not an answer. You call it mundane im asking what is better and you havent provided anything?
    3.) what does this mean, were people not spiritual in you grandparents day? they were so what does this mean
    4.) same as #3 this is meaningless with out further explanation.

    tell me the answer how would you do it so it isnt shakey since the Constitution, laws and rights arent good enough for you.

    5.) see 3 and 4, you keep calling it shakey but cant provide how to improve it.
    Laws are / can be shaky as we have seen them overturned, additions made to, exclusions and on and on.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I think you are confusing the most public point of contention with "first place in the minds of many Christians". This is known as the Availability Heuristic, and is a common logical fallacy.
    Thanks - Learning something new today - lot to digest though.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It's not. 99% of homosexuals just want to be left alone without being discriminated against.
    Correct- They want the same rights as every other citizen. No more and no less.
    And a goodly number have religious beliefs as well.
    Something that many do not consider.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    No, many Christians openly oppose homosexuals and seek to sabotage their acceptance within society. They try to elect people who support an anti-gay agenda, so that life can be made miserable for them where possible.
    In Canada as time goes on a smaller and smaller number.
    Why the US has such an issue with human rights is not beyond me, as I think it began with those lovelies who immigrated, the Puritans/Anglicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by RickJames3000 View Post
    You need to revisit the chain of association... you only insisted you were a Trump-supporter after you figured out that made you a pederast as well. If I were you. I'd be more discreet about it... but I guess it's your dime.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    So you would feel right at home with Hitler and Pol Pot and Gayce running loose in heaven for eternity?

    Love does not rejoice in iniquity (1 Corinthians 13).

    If gays (and heterosexual sinners) want eternal love and peace then they need to repent of their sins and receive Christ for salvation.
    Then riddle me these points.
    God created man in his image. Yes-
    Why would God create untold millions to suffer?
    No love, no family, no rights, just pure suffering from being hanged to beat to death, to dragged behind a truck till they died.
    Did God create them to suffer? If so why?
    Being gay is not a chosen lifestyle, you are or you are not.
    You cannot be converted from gay to heterosexual. No you cannot.

    I like other Christians also believe in evolution. Do you?
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Jesus is God. As God, Jesus is the one who gave Moses the Levitical law against gay sexual relations to begin with; and hes the one who inspires all Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16), including prohibitions against gay sexual relations in Romans 1:26-27 and I Corinthians 6:9-10, etc. So Jesus is on record as identifying gay sex as a sin, and he's on record telling people to repent of their sins (Luke 13:3). And if they don't, they will perish.
    Do you believe the Bible is the literal word of God?
    No errors, completely accurate word of God?
    Quote Originally Posted by RickJames3000 View Post
    You need to revisit the chain of association... you only insisted you were a Trump-supporter after you figured out that made you a pederast as well. If I were you. I'd be more discreet about it... but I guess it's your dime.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    If you cater to an event where you know people are engaging in sinful activity but you do not yourself engage in that activity, you are no more enabling the sinful activity than if you cater to the event and don't engage in the activity if they are celebrating it. If the sinful activity is of concern to you, you are in both cases feeding people in which you know are engaging in sinful activity. If you think you are enabling sinful activity by feeding a group of people who are celebrating or encouraging homosexual activity, then you are also enabling sinful activity if you feed people who are engaged in homosexual activity if they are at an event which is not celebrating or encouraging it. The same can be said of lying. If you feel you are enabling lying by feeding liars at an event which encourages lying, you are also enabling it by feeding them at an event at which they know they will be lying.

    The point is this, you want to say its the activity because of its sinful nature, but really that is not the issue. Because if that was the case, there would be many things that one would have to stop engaging in. In fact, there are people who realizing the all encompassing nature of deceit who take a vow of silence and don't say anything at all. The real issue in this regard is that people have an aversion to one type of sinful activity, but they don't share that aversion when it comes to something that they themselves are victimized by. And that is not a sign of transcendence of mundane affairs, but is merely another manifestation of the arrogance that accompanies mundane activity. Therefore people who support this type of law or not doing so out of their love of righteousness, rather they are doing so as a result of the arrogance that is a symptom of their entanglement in mundane things.
    He has not stated such. He is quite clear on what and when he will or he will not participate cater or even attend as a guest.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'

    Edit: Why aren't polls auto-selected on this forum so that people don't accidentally post threads without polls?
    I've been watching and listening to and reading Huckabee for a number of years now, and I am pretty sure he doesn't link the survival of Christianity to gay discrimination. I am quite certain he himself does not discriminate against gays in any way.

    But he is passionately angry and outspoken about gay activists and others dictating to the rest of us how we are supposed to think, how we are supposed to believe, how we are supposed to conduct our businesses, and demanding that we deep six our own convictions and feelings and moral center and embrace theirs. And he does see Christians as being specifically targeted to be disciplined when they don't toe the line on that mandate.

    And frankly, while I don't share all his views on how gay people are to be regarded--he sees homosexuality as a choice for instance and I do not--I don't think he is being unreasonable or melodramatic about the current assault on our individual liberties.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'



    Edit: Why aren't polls auto-selected on this forum so that people don't accidentally post threads without polls?

    Huckabee is a fool to say such things, statements like those guarantee never being president. Unfortunately he is not the only politician, right, left or center to babble at the mouth and spew something that they think may rally certain groups while not considering others. It will never happen in my life time but I truly truly wish we either didn't have parties or that the basic two party system was changed in some large way. I'd take even 3 parties and I wish the government system would regulate that some how. We the people would greatly benefit.
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