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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

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    I tried, there was no edit option for a poll.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It's been a while since Huckabee has announced he wants people to sign one of his petitions to Congress - along with a donation of course. That's his money-making routine. Yes, he uses religion for those personal fund raisers.
    He misuses religion is my opinion.
    A wingnut.
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

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    You do know that many Churches are splitting apart due to this- And that includes conservative & some would say Liberal Churches as well.
    I would like to see some numbers on your point?
    What numbers are you looking for? Do you think that I'm in error that many Christians think that being anti-gay is intrinsic to the scripture?

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    You'll need to define many.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

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    You'll need to define many.
    Enough that entire states feel that businesses need to be protected, should they decide to discriminate against gays.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

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    What numbers are you looking for? Do you think that I'm in error that many Christians think that being anti-gay is intrinsic to the scripture?
    You don't understand how most of Christianity works. Fornication, adultery and divorce also are against scripture. Does that stop anyone from being Christian? It is so common that few ministers will even mention anything about divorcees, unmarried couples or such people attending services.

    What you don't understand about Christianity is you generally need to be a sinner to be a good Christian, because you need forgiveness and if you don't do anything wrong what can you be forgiven for? FEW Christian churches would expel someone for being gay. Some would. Most would not, even if their doctrine opposes homosexuality.

    That is the remarkable thing about Christianity compared to most religions. You don't have to act like a Christian to be one. Anything you do can instantaneously be forgiven like it never happened. Thus, the penalty for breaking the rules is all but non-existent. Just say "Dear God, I'm sorry. In Jesus name, amen" and you're pure as New York snow.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    He misuses religion is my opinion.
    A wingnut.
    He uses it for personal profit and political fame. He gets on TV with it. Makes money off it.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What numbers are you looking for? Do you think that I'm in error that many Christians think that being anti-gay is intrinsic to the scripture?
    Many is open ended.
    Numbers, i am sure there is research out there. But before you make a claim of "many" it really should be quantified as best as is reasonably possible.
    Possible the Pew Institute may have some stats. I do not know.

    As to anti gay- Yes a number of Christians do think it contravenes Biblical teachings.
    That does not mean they hate them, some would, but that number is open for debate.
    Same as those that think all Christians are anti gay - your phrase not mine. And they are all not of that position.
    Your statement is wide ranging and far to encompassing of a substantial number who have no issues what so ever with homosexuality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Huckabee: Gay-Rights Movement 'Won't Stop Until There Are No Churches'



    Edit: Why aren't polls auto-selected on this forum so that people don't accidentally post threads without polls?
    This is rather confusing. There have been gay human beings on this planet far longer than there have been Christians, and so if Christianity disappears, it will have no ill effect. Being gay is just as natural as being straight, it's just not as normal. A four leaf clover is just as natural as a three leaf clover, it's just not as normal. So I wonder why the existence and acceptance of that fact is so threatening to the church that the day may come when there's no more church's or disciples to disseminate its propaganda?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You don't understand how most of Christianity works. Fornication, adultery and divorce also are against scripture. Does that stop anyone from being Christian?
    I would believe you if Christians cared as much about adultery and fornication as they do about gays and finding ways to legally thumb them in the eye. Mind you, having gay sex isn't even on God's top ten things not to do. Yet it is first place in the minds of many Christians on the conservative side.

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