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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    People use religion to suit their agenda and their personality. If they are of good character and intent, they will focus on the positive scripture and output a positive message. IF You are of poor character, so you focus on the punishment / suffering aspect of God, and put forth a hateful message.
    Alot of it is projection....they know what needs to be curbed in themselves and believe everyone has the same desires or impulses.

    I agreed with your statements but I changed your quote slightly because I didnt want it to focus on a particular poster.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    That's true, but he didn't embrace or approve of their sins. He told them to repent and go and sin no more. I don't think the pro-gay crowd would approve of that.
    Did they repent, were you there. Did Jesus say it was a sin. He even loved those that crucified him.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If the objection was to homosexuality then it should not be limited to wedding day service. The idea that supplying goods/services to sinners is participating in a sin is quite a stretch.
    And it would apply to marrying or remarrying *adulterers and fornicators, for example....but interestingly enough....it doesnt.


    *I believe the Catholic Church still does.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    That's true, but he didn't embrace or approve of their sins. He told them to repent and go and sin no more. I don't think the pro-gay crowd would approve of that.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    All I am saying is that if you knew it was an event where people would be engaged in homosexual activity, you would not cater to it, regardless of the purpose of the event.
    That is incorrect.

    IF it is really the sin of the activity that you have a problem with, IF it were an event where you knew people would be intentionally engaging in the practice of deceit, you would not cater to it. That is IF the sinful nature of the activity was really a concern.
    No, because then catering the event does not cause me to enable/participate/celebrate/take-part-in/whathaveyou the actual sinful activity going on. It's not a matter of "don't be around sinful people".
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It has to do with having to actively participate in something one considers a sin, or actively help celebrate something the Bible teaches is a sin.
    OK, then why are there no objections to marry or remarry adulterers and fornicators? Marrying people that were convicted of murder, rape, pedophilia? Or serving such people (and these things are often known in communities)?

    Not only that, there have been active public well-financed campaigns, by religious organizations to STOP SSM...I'm not aware of them engaging in the same thing regarding the other major sins I just mentioned.


    So while I do 'recognize' that people want to object...*say* they are objecting...on religious grounds, I believe that in 99% of the cases they are full of BS and just selectively and hypocritically rejecting gays.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And it would apply to marrying or remarrying *adulterers and fornicators, for example....but interestingly enough....it doesnt.


    *I believe the Catholic Church still does.
    That is a major critique I have of the modern Protestant church, and I think one of the mistakes that they have made that have left them vulnerable to this as well.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I strongly disagree. If I were asked to cater a fundraiser for Planned Parenthood, I would be supporting abortion on demand, and this would be a grave hypocrisy.
    Would you be basing your decision on religious belief?
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    OK, then why are there no objections to marry or remarry adulterers and fornicators?
    Are they repentant? Or is the event a celebration of adultery/fornication?

    Marrying people that were convicted of murder, rape, pedophilia?
    Same question.

    Or serving such people (and these things are often known in communities)?
    Broadly speaking, no, no problem with that.

    Not only that, there have been active public well-financed campaigns, by religious organizations to STOP SSM...I'm not aware of them engaging in the same thing regarding the other major sins I just mentioned.
    On the contrary - it is Progressives who are the aggressors in the culture wars - it's in the name. SSM wasn't the law of the land, Pro-SSM'ers set out to change that. What you are referencing is active public campaigns to defend the previous standard of marriage, as agreeably imperfect as it was.

    So while I do 'recognize' that people want to object...*say* they are objecting...on religious grounds, I believe that in 99% of the cases they are full of BS and just selectively and hypocritically rejecting gays.
    I think you are projecting.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Would you be basing your decision on religious belief?
    Freedom of Conscience is limited to religion? Atheists don't get it?
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