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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No. For example, if I were asked to cater a business' Holiday Party, and Joe from Accounting came with his boyfriend Bob from Marketing, the event is not in and of itself a celebration of homosexuality - it is a celebration of the business having another year. If the business were to ask me to cater their off-site training on how-to-suck-another-dude's-dick-and-love-it, that would be an event centered around homosexual activity, and that is one I couldn't support.
    But what if it was an event in which a large number of homosexuals would be there, but not necessarily for what you call the celebration of homosexuality? A party where heterosexuals and homosexuals would be loose in their behavior, as adults can be at parties. What if it was an event where you knew people would be intentionally engaging in deceit, not necessarily celebrating it? If its the activity that is of concern, one would not cater to either.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Actually, the Lake of Fire is New Testament (Revelation chapter 20).

    Have you ever read the Bible? Recommend the NIV Study Bible, or the MacArthur Study Bible. Both have lots of notes.
    Some wold say the most controversial chapter in the Bible.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    What happened in the past was not right. I am not RCC myself.
    Hope the prick went to jail
    He did, sick thing is the SOB would do the children's mass.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    But what if it was an event in which a large number of homosexuals would be there, but not necessarily for what you call the celebration of homosexuality?
    Then the event itself is not a celebration of homosexual activity. Every single individual in the room could be (by coincidence or whatever) homosexual, but if the event is about fixing the city's sewer systems, then I am not enabling or participating in something that violates my faith, I'm enabling/serving people in pursuit of good public hygiene.

    A party where heterosexuals and homosexuals would be loose in their behavior, as adults can be at parties.
    If a party not designed to be an orgy turns into an orgy then that is something I would have to leave, regardless of the sexual preferences of the participants.

    What if it was an event where you knew people would be intentionally engaging in deceit, not necessarily celebrating it?
    Is it the purpose of the event, or just something that happens there? Is it a defining characteristic or activity of the event, or unconnected to its' purpose and not-representative.

    If its the activity that is of concern, one would not cater to either.
    The question is whether or not the activity is enough of the event that participation in the event means support/enablement/celebration/what-have-you of the activity.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Any rate people want to come down hard on homosexuality, but when it comes to the type of sinful activity they are prone to, it becomes a different matter.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Is it the purpose of the event, or just something that happens there? Is it a defining characteristic or activity of the event, or unconnected to its' purpose and not-representative.
    What I am saying is that regardless of the purpose, what if it were an event where you knew that people would be intentionally engaging in deceit. If it is the activity that concerns you, you would not cater to such an event. Just like if you knew it was an event in which people would be engaged in homosexuality, regardless of the purpose of the event.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What I am saying is that regardless of the purpose, what if it were an event where you knew that people would be intentionally engaging in deceit.
    The purpose is not something that can be disregarded - it is, in this example, rather central to my decision.


    It's sort of like asking "Regardless of whether or not you think it is the right decision, should we go to war"?


    If it is the activity that concerns you, you would not cater to such an event
    On the contrary - the activity is the problem, which is why whether or not the event is about the activity is central to whether or not to support the event.

    Just like if you knew it was an event in which people would be engaged in homosexuality, regardless of the purpose of the event.
    Again. If every single member of the room is a homosexual married to a member of the same gender and the event is about sewage, then the event is about sewage. If it's billed as an event about sewage and turns into a gay orgy, then it has become something else and I have to leave.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Again. If every single member of the room is a homosexual married to a member of the same gender and the event is about sewage, then the event is about sewage. If it's billed as an event about sewage and turns into a gay orgy, then it has become something else and I have to leave.
    All I am saying is that if you knew it was an event where people would be engaged in homosexual activity, you would not cater to it, regardless of the purpose of the event. IF it is really the sin of the activity that you have a problem with, IF it were an event where you knew people would be intentionally engaging in the practice of deceit, you would not cater to it. That is IF the sinful nature of the activity was really a concern.

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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Some wold say the most controversial chapter in the Bible.
    I haven't heard that until now. Seems pretty straight-forward to me.

    On the other hand the Bible and the message of Christ himself is offensive to many.
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    Re: Is it wise for Christians to link the survival of Christianity to gay discriminat

    Quote Originally Posted by kjwins View Post
    Jesus hung out with hookers, gays & misfits. He didn't give a rats ass who or what you were.
    That's true, but he didn't embrace or approve of their sins. He told them to repent and go and sin no more. I don't think the pro-gay crowd would approve of that.
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