Why are Jews so hated?

Phys251 said:

And let's not forget that Cameron is a Tory.

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Let's not forget Cameron isn't an Israeli, isn't a Jew and UK's "Tory" government's adversity to Jews of Israel. When the UK has been Israel's ally is exactly never. The UK protecting it's oil interests in the M.E. against Muslim radicals has nothing to do with supporting Israel or Jews. Israel exists despite of instead of because of the UK. Except for Muslim nations and Palestinian attacks against Israel, the UK has been the worse adversary the Jews of Israel have. The UK conservative government opposed the very existence of Israel and opposed Jews having 1 foot of land in their final actions - and pro-actively tried to cause the Jews to lose their war of independence.

The alliance between the USA and the UK is about money and oil, not ideology or civil/human rights. Economically the UK and the USA are linked more than many people realize and always have been. The M.E. is the oil fields of the UK, the USA and France in their view to this day. Israel is just an annoyance that sometimes can be used - including to distract hatred from the West towards the Jews just like the Muslim theocratic dictators do. Hating the Jews of Israel is everyone's diversionary scapegoat.

joko104 said:

Let's not forget Cameron isn't an Israeli, isn't a Jew and UK's "Tory" government's adversity to Jews of Israel. When the UK has been Israel's ally is exactly never.

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joko104 said:

Really all you did is avoid any response to anything I actually posted. Again, you never read anything others post, only listen to yourself. Your message is an off-point non-response to what I posted. What I posted is why don't Palestinians leave the "prison camp," and why doesn't David Cameron and Muslim countries up their doors to the Palestinians for them to escape too - like most Jews in Israel has to escape the oppression of the country they or their ancestors were in?

I do understand you prefer the genocidal tactics of Muslims against Jews than the control Jews exercise over Palestinians. So why don't you post that - that the Jews should kill and imprison all Palestinians who won't leave? That's the system of those you praise and endorse.

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And your apologising for Israeli run Gaza prison camp.

Mostly jealousy.

The way some Jew-haters describe Jews it appears that they think they are super heroes/villains from outer space: "They control the Fed, they control Hollywood, they own everything, they cause all wars, they make black and whites intermarry, they're rich, they're funny, they're the best lawyers, they can convince anybody of anything, and they can control anything they want!"

Because some people just need to blame others

joko104 said:

Let's not forget Cameron isn't an Israeli, isn't a Jew and UK's "Tory" government's adversity to Jews of Israel. When the UK has been Israel's ally is exactly never. The UK protecting it's oil interests in the M.E. against Muslim radicals has nothing to do with supporting Israel or Jews. Israel exists despite of instead of because of the UK. Except for Muslim nations and Palestinian attacks against Israel, the UK has been the worse adversary the Jews of Israel have. The UK conservative government opposed the very existence of Israel and opposed Jews having 1 foot of land in their final actions - and pro-actively tried to cause the Jews to lose their war of independence.

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Haha, can't stand that the conservative prime minister of the UK called out the Israeli prison camp in Gaza.

joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE - PUBLIC POLL

Jews have not engaged in an invasive war since the 9th century BC. Unlike Christians, Muslims and nearly every ethnicity, race and country, other than the initial formation of Israel 2900 years ago, Jews have never sought to create an empire by war or in any other manner.

For nearly 2000 years, Jews have fled from one region and country to another from oppression and systematic murder. The killing of Jews merely for being Jewish has never stopped. It would appear no ethnicity/race has been more hated for as long and as universally across the world as the Jews.

Why? Why are the Jews so hated everywhere leading to countless incidents of organized violence, murder, imprisonment, and other genocidal natured oppression?

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The bigger question is why there are so many extremists who like to perpetuate the ridiculous notion that Jews, as a group, are perpetually hated by everyone.

Montecresto said:

And your apologising for Israeli run Gaza prison camp.

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You have degraded beyond non-responses to posting outright lies. I never posted any such thing.

solletica said:

The bigger question is why there are so many extremists who like to perpetuate the ridiculous notion that Jews, as a group, are perpetually hated by everyone.

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Yes, you are predictably another holocaust denier. In fact, but for the USA and Israel Jews have been all but entirely eliminated from the rest of the world. Those few remaining elsewhere are dwindling now to a final total genocide.

joko104 said:

You have degraded beyond non-responses to posting outright lies. I never posted any such thing.

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Apologise for this while you're at it.

Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'

Read more: Moshe Feiglin calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'conquest of Gaza Strip' | Daily Mail Online
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Montecresto said:

Haha, can't stand that the conservative prime minister of the UK called out the Israeli prison camp in Gaza.

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Just you posting another lie about my messages. You are incapable of either discussion or debate. You're a neo-nazi, aren't you? Your messages definitely are.

joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE - PUBLIC POLL

Jews have not engaged in an invasive war since the 9th century BC. Unlike Christians, Muslims and nearly every ethnicity, race and country, other than the initial formation of Israel 2900 years ago, Jews have never sought to create an empire by war or in any other manner.

For nearly 2000 years, Jews have fled from one region and country to another from oppression and systematic murder. The killing of Jews merely for being Jewish has never stopped. It would appear no ethnicity/race has been more hated for as long and as universally across the world as the Jews.

Why? Why are the Jews so hated everywhere leading to countless incidents of organized violence, murder, imprisonment, and other genocidal natured oppression?

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I have always wondered the same thing. From a European point-of-view, they look and act the same as everyone else, so what is it? The best possibility I have heard is that Jews were traditionally the banker and money controllers for centuries in Europe and it was essentially jealousy. Though that doesn't explain others regions and eras.

Montecresto said:

Apologise for this while you're at it.

Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'

Read more: Moshe Feiglin calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'conquest of Gaza Strip' | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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Why would I apologize for that? Muslim nations and the UK should adopt the Palestinians. I would totally support Israel "annihilating the fighting forces of Palestinians." Prisoners captured should be put into military prisons, which can be called a concentration camp if you wish.

joko104 said:

Why would I apologize for that? Muslim nations and the UK should adopt the Palestinians. I would totally support Israel "annihilating the fighting forces of Palestinians." Prisoners captured should be put into military prisons, which can be called a concentration camp if you wish.

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It's the Israeli officials wish. And why should Palestinian fighting forces be annihilated, they don't deserve the right to self defence that you claim for Israel?

joG said:

My fault. I connected it to the wrong entry.

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Jewish, Hebrew, it's pretty much the same thing, when you don't take the differences into account.
















...I have absolutely nothing of value to add to this discussion.

Hard Truth said:

Mostly jealousy.

The way some Jew-haters describe Jews it appears that they think they are super heroes/villains from outer space: "They control the Fed, they control Hollywood, they own everything, they cause all wars, they make black and whites intermarry, they're rich, they're funny, they're the best lawyers, they can convince anybody of anything, and they can control anything they want!"

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Jewperman?

joko104 said:

Yes, you are predictably another holocaust denier. In fact, but for the USA and Israel Jews have been all but entirely eliminated from the rest of the world.

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Kinda impossible, considering anyone can become a Jew by adopting Judaism as his/her religion--a fact acknowledged by most religious scholars and Rabbis.

Of course, the racial purity advocates prefer to deny it.

The only time I roll my eyes is when some of them act like I or those around me owe them something (pity or whatever) for what happened 7 decades ago to their grandparents and NOT them.

solletica said:

Kinda impossible, considering anyone can become a Jew by adopting Judaism as his/her religion--a fact acknowledged by most religious scholars and Rabbis.

Of course, the racial purity advocates prefer to deny it.

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You have no clue what you are talking about on this topic.

The other group hated about as much as Jews is the Roma (gypsies). They don't have a visible community in the USA, but face a lot of hatred in Europe and surrounding regions. In their case it is, or was, at least partially a conflict between nomads and settled groups, a conflict that the USA resolved by killing off the native nomads. Now it is also about their extreme poverty, isolation and resulting crime.

Montecresto said:

It's the Israeli officials wish. And why should Palestinian fighting forces be annihilated, they don't deserve the right to self defence that you claim for Israel?

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No. They should leave.

They started the wars and they perpetuate the wars. They did so in an open effort to exterminate Jews. They refused the offer of Israeli Jews to let them have the overwhelming majority of land exclusively for them. Instead they warred against the Jews including Jewish civilians boasting how easily they could wipe them out and solicited six Muslim dictators to join in the attempted genocide. They lost, lost and lost. In their attempts they lost their claim to the land having proactively made themselves military enemies.

They can leave to surrounding Muslim countries. To the contrary, Jews have no where left to go. There are no other Jewish countries to immigrate too. The entire region has Muslim countries to immigrate to. Plus there is the wonderful UK they can move to via Cameron's invitation (or did he?)

Hard Truth said:

The other group hated about as much as Jews is the Roma (gypsies). They don't have a visible community in the USA, but face a lot of hatred in Europe and surrounding regions. In their case it is, or was, at least partially a conflict between nomads and settled groups, a conflict that the USA resolved by killing off the native nomads. Now it is also about their extreme poverty, isolation and resulting crime.

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I see the analogy, though Jews could rightly be offended by being compared to Gypsies otherwise.

Luftwaffe said:

The only time I roll my eyes is when some of them act like I or those around me owe them something (pity or whatever) for what happened 7 decades ago to their grandparents and NOT them.

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When was the last time a Jew told you that you owe him something?

The last time Jews were killed for being Jews is this month - though there are so very few left to find to kill in the ME outside of Israel. Is that ancient history to you?

Your thought process is exactly the rational Hitler had. Kill off people and soon no one cares. The dead have no rights, no offspring and are quickly forgotten. The generations of who killed them and benefited by all that was stolen then merely claim "Me? I didn't kill anyone, don't blame me."

Unfortunately, genocide is a perfectly effective tactic. When was the last time any protested the 100% genocide of the indigenous people of the Caribbean - murdered to the very last person. Totally exterminated. 6,000,000. Not one in 10,000 people even know such people ever existed - they think the Indigenous people of the Caribbean are black.

The difference between the Jews of Israel and ALL MUSLIM counties is that the Jews did not and do not engage is such murderous atrocities as to essentially so terrorize Palestinians as to drive them all off - those not killed - which is exactly what EVERY Muslim country did to Jews.

So you cry over Palestinians for not being mass murdered and so horrifically driven off - and don't give a damn of the peoples mass murdered and caused to flee by terror - and now many condemn those who fled and survived in Israel.

It is SO easy to understand why neither Germany nor anyone else the world gave a damn about the holocaust - then or now. Hitler's sales pitch of xenophobic hatred to the degree of total apathy at the least towards genocide is such an easy and proven successful sales pitch. No one cares about those mass murdered, thus it is a highly successful tactic. All it takes is being purely evil and purely amoral.

joko104 said:

I see the analogy, though Jews could rightly be offended by being compared to Gypsies otherwise.

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Not all Jews are bigoted against Gypsies, I hope and think most are not since they suffered the same fate under the Nazis.

joko104 said:

No. They should leave.

They started the wars and they perpetuate the wars. They did so in an open effort to exterminate Jews. They refused the offer of Israeli Jews to let them have the overwhelming majority of land exclusively for them. Instead they warred against the Jews including Jewish civilians boasting how easily they could wipe them out and solicited six Muslim dictators to join in the attempted genocide. They lost, lost and lost. In their attempts they lost their claim to the land having proactively made themselves military enemies.

They can leave to surrounding Muslim countries. To the contrary, Jews have no where left to go. There are no other Jewish countries to immigrate too. The entire region has Muslim countries to immigrate to. Plus there is the wonderful UK they can move to via Cameron's invitation (or did he?)

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Oh stop it already, nobody believes that. It takes two to tango, and as soon as the US stops protecting Israel's crimes against the Palestinians at the UN level, sanctions passed by the UN may become binding. And why in the hell should Palestinians leave when they were there first, while the Israelis are the interlopers?