View Poll Results: Why have Jews been so hated across history?

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  • Because they declare they are God's Chosen People, which is offensive

    2 9.52%
  • Because they do not integrating society making themselves an outsider minority

    7 33.33%
  • Because of religious reasons, ie "Christ killers" and ancient conflicts with Muslims

    9 42.86%
  • Because for whatever reason they tend to become wealthier than most people

    9 42.86%
  • Because they tend to favor each other in dealings unfairly

    5 23.81%
  • Because they collectively conspire to gain influence where ever they are

    5 23.81%
  • Their rituals and self-collectivism invokes xenophobia

    3 14.29%
  • Because Jews oppress people when they gain influence

    3 14.29%
  • Because Jews tended to surrender or flee rather than fight so are easy targets of hate

    1 4.76%
  • The poll is false. Historically Jews have not suffered atrocities more than others

    7 33.33%
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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I understand the tendency of atheists to try to blame everything on religious people, but history proves that wrong. If anyone can point to a NICE and PEACEFUL atheist society in history, do so. It never happened, though there has been atheist governments. They have tended to be the most murderous.
    Modern day Czech Republic. It's upwards of 80% atheist.

    Secondly we atheists do not have sacred, Holy Texts that we wave in other's face that literally blame an entire group of people for committing the worst act in the history of the Universe.

    Therefore Amadeus is correct. There is no liberal atheist reason to hate Jews. And given that most Jews in Europe and America ARE liberal, secular (atheists!) Jews, and reinforce this in their voting patterns, I do believe they would agree with my statement.

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    I said liberal atheist. Hitler was a social conservative.
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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You mean in the pure peace brought by Stalin and Mao?
    Peace is rarely reached through authoritarian dictators. Their religion wasn't really relevant.
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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why? Why are the Jews so hated everywhere leading to countless incidents of organized violence, murder, imprisonment, and other genocidal natured oppression?
    I don't think there is a high amount of hate for Jews in general in the West. I do think people don't particularly care for people like Ariel Sharon because such people are liars and murderers, but that isn't because of them being Jews.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    My roommate in college was Jewish. He always forgot to wash the dishes. That peeved me a bit.



    I don't know, I never understood bigotry against Jewish people. I am certainly no fan of the Israeli government but even the stereotypes that surround Jewish people seem innocuous to me. I don't get it.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I said liberal atheist. Hitler was a social conservative.
    What? He was an economic liberal and a totalitarian.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't think there is a high amount of hate for Jews in general in the West. I do think people don't particularly care for people like Ariel Sharon because such people are liars and murderers, but that isn't because of them being Jews.
    Since essentially all Jews are gone from Western and Eastern Europe there aren't many Jews left to hate. It's like saying there aren't many Americans who still hate "Indians." But then there aren't many Native Americans left.

    Not one person still hates original Indigenous people of the Caribbean. Of course they were 100% genocided into non-existence so who is there to hate? And, being gone, nothing left to protest nor any reason to bother condemning anyone either.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Modern day Czech Republic. It's upwards of 80% atheist.

    Secondly we atheists do not have sacred, Holy Texts that we wave in other's face that literally blame an entire group of people for committing the worst act in the history of the Universe.

    Therefore Amadeus is correct. There is no liberal atheist reason to hate Jews. And given that most Jews in Europe and America ARE liberal, secular (atheists!) Jews, and reinforce this in their voting patterns, I do believe they would agree with my statement.
    Why don't you guys get your story at least consistent?

    Out of one side of your mouths you curse American Christians for loyalty to Israel because it is a Jewish country for religious reasons - and out of the other side of your mouth you declare is it Christians who have reason to hate Jews for religious reasons.

    SO... are you going to stick with Christians hate Jews for religious reasons OR the claim that Christians blindly support Jews for religious reasons?

    WHICH ONE IS IT? PICK ONE.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Since essentially all Jews are gone from Western and Eastern Europe there aren't many Jews left to hate. It's like saying there aren't many Americans who still hate "Indians." But then there aren't many Native Americans left.

    Not one person still hates original Indigenous people of the Caribbean. Of course they were 100% genocided into non-existence so who is there to hate? And, being gone, nothing left to protest nor any reason to bother condemning anyone either.
    There are a lot of Jews in the United States. In fact the very best friend I ever had a Jewish mother.

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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It may be that simple. And because Jews tend to resist social and religious assimilation - and instead survivors tended to flee to still another region - this put Jews all over the world (except Asia) - thus have been persecuted all over the world.

    A reason this may not be the ongoing history in the USA is because most American Jews have assimilated in all outwards ways. They do not dress like Jews, do not live in Jewish enclaves, and nothing about them outwardly says "I'm a Jew" nor "this is a Jewish community."

    Nearly all other peoples will assimilate to the social, religious, behavior and moral practices of the society they are in. As the most notable example, basically 100% of those of other ancient religions of the ME - religions that existed at the same time as Judaism - abandoned those religions entirely over 1000 years ago - if for no other reason than they would be killed if they didn't become Muslim. Yet Jews opted instead to flee, dig in, or just be killed.

    So we also approach the question of what is it about Jews or Judaism that causes them to so militantly refuse to stop being Jews? At least outside of the USA? Why do Jews so resist full assimilation given the terrible costs of not doing so?
    That I don't understand. Here, you don't really know whether someone is a Jew unless they tell you or you find out their last name is Goldberg or something. Then, when you do find out, it's, Oh, how interesting, what do you like to do in your spare time? It really doesn't matter to most Americans. It's like saying, "I like to play golf, do you?" or something similar. It could spark a conversation about golf, or religion, but it's not a matter of great interest. They've simply assimilated into our society.
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    Re: Why are Jews so hated?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Modern day Czech Republic. It's upwards of 80% atheist.

    Secondly we atheists do not have sacred, Holy Texts that we wave in other's face that literally blame an entire group of people for committing the worst act in the history of the Universe.

    Therefore Amadeus is correct. There is no liberal atheist reason to hate Jews. And given that most Jews in Europe and America ARE liberal, secular (atheists!) Jews, and reinforce this in their voting patterns, I do believe they would agree with my statement.
    It was Czech's who most supported Israel's war when under attack my numerous Muslim countries. The Czech's learned of the folly and betrayal of "land for peace" - the Chamberlain plan.

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